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Can someone tell me how this works?

As far as I understand any internet/data usage is free when using your Blackberry.

How does this work? Are there any limits? Whats stopping someone from hooking the BB to a netbook and browsing/downloading through it?

Whats stopping someone from finding a torrent app for BB and downloading movies onto their BB?

Is it basically like uncapped internet? :confused::confused::confused:
 
There is a sticky up here answering all those questions ;)

Read through the following post - should sort you out :)

If I read another 'what's really free?' thread I'm going to scream. So if you're new to BIS read this and hopefully all your questions will be answered (updated from the Bold Tips Thread):

To begin I think it's best to answer the usual question of just what the limitations of the Bold are on BIS (if you're on BES check with your IT people to determine what your limitations are):
Here's what you will be charged for:
1. Using your phone as a modem with your PC (there is NO way around this, don't even think about it).
2. Using the network browser - in your browser go to options - Browser Configuration - the first option is browser make sure 'Internet Browser' is selected and not 'MTN' or 'Vlive' as you will be charged for the network browser. Also under the general options - advanced options - browser ensure that 'internet browser' is selected.
3. Many 3rd party apps that did not come with your phone will be charged for (assume they're charged until you've tested them). For example Opera Mini and the Bolt Browser and charged applications (but there is a way to force them to use BIS). An easy way to tell you're on 3G is the B icon next to the '3G' icon disappears (or your edge will be in small letters) when you initiate an internet connection with these applications (first load a page and quickly hit the red button to go to the home screen to check).
4. Streaming video and audio, eg. Youtube - any time your phone asks you if it can connect to WAP you will be charged.
5. Absolutely everything else is free - e-mail and attachments, all browsing and downloading done with the default internet browser, instant messaging via BB Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, and Google Talk, any application that makes (or can make) use of BIS eg. Viigo, Google sync, Facebook.

Of course there are limitations:
1. Attachment limits: On your e-mail application you can't download any attachment larger than 2.9mb. When downloading a large e-mail attachment your device may tell you to contact your carrier about possible charges, happily there are no charges for this on MTN and Vodacom.
2. Downloads via the browser: This limit changes over time and is in no way fixed or guaranteed. It is different depending on the type of file you're downloading. For most files it's 5mb. PDF's are 2.9mb, certain larger multimedia files have lower limits, eg. MP3's can be 15mb. These limits are subject to change.
3. BIS does not use HSDPA presently, but does use 3G, it's a little slower than normal 3G because of the way BIS works but the phone's fast enough that if you're downloading something it won't slow anything else down. For browsing 3G is only slightly faster than EDGE.
4. Download sizes and speeds are, however, unlimited if you use the MTN or Vlive browsers or Opera Mini but you will be charged full data rates for doing so. These browsers also make full use of HSDPA, I've experienced downloads of up to 1mb/per second at peak time.
5. Browser Limitations - The BB Browser cannot execute Ajax at all so you can't, for example, use the full version of Gmail or Gcal, while the full Facebook page partially works but takes forever to load. Some websites need to have Javascript set off to work correctly others need Java to work at all. Happily when you add a website as a bookmark you can set per website whether Java is enabled or disabled. You can also set whether your browser is identified as Blackberry, Firefox, or IE and whether you use column or page view. This is less of a problem on OS5 and by the end of the year when the new browser is launched this problem should completely disappear.

Personally I prefer column view because reading text is easier but some pages work better in page view. The ability to set your browser identification is quite nifty - you can set your browser to identify itself as Firefox for those websites that automatically redirect you to their mobile editions when you'd prefer the full version. For those wondering about downloads it handles these quite well. You can press the back button when a download starts and it continues in the background and it can handle multiple downloads quite well - on 3G it's quite fast.
Once you get used to it the BB browser isn't bad at all and is on par with Opera Mini and Opera Mobile.

Useful Applications
To download these make sure your browser is identifying itself as Blackberry and not Firefox or IE.
1. Viigo - my personal favourite. The RSS reader built into the browser sucks, but this free app more than makes up for it and its really quick too. Please make sure from options - network is set to Bis-B and none of the other options (not even auto) to ensure free service on BIS.
2. Go to m.google.com and download a number of great free applications (finally having an American, okay Canadian, phone has its advantages).
3. Google Talk - let's you use your Mxit contacts and all of your instant messages go straight to your inbox and get saved to your Gmail account. Mxit also now uses BIS.
4. Vlingo - voice recognition software (not perfect, but getting there)
5. Opera Mini and Bolt - to force them to use BIS change your APN settings (in Advanced settings) to 'blackberry.net' and confirm that they're using BIS by quickly exiting (press and hold red button) and checking you still have a blinking 'B' icon. You can't do downloads with these apps through BIS, but you can have the downloads open in the Blackberry browser.

Tips
Change your APN settings (in Advanced settings) to 'blackberry.net' this will force most applications to use BIS, if they don't work then they can't use BIS. Note that Garmap and some other applications are able to circumvent this setting and use the network APN.
By disabling home screen dialing (from the phone app) most of the keys become shortcuts to apps.
Gmail can be used with Imap and will work correctly, if anyone wants to know I'll post the details here.
Yahoo Mail - Even though you normally have to pay for Yahoo Mail pop it's free on the Blackberry.
Don't bother with the over-the-air software upgrade it doesn't work at this point (you have to do firmware upgrades on a Windows PC).
If you're on MTN you get Garmap for free and on Vodacom you get Satnav (assuming your berry has GPS).
 
Can I ask what I suspect to a stupid question - I recently wiped and installed the latest firmware on my 8310. I am yet to get BIS. However I can't for the life of me find the browser. Is that because there is no BIS?
 
Milokmak- you should have a browser regardless of whether you have BIS or not.
 
Where is it located? I can't think of a place where I haven''t looked for it.
 
your's might appear a Vlive. I wiped my BB9520 and browser also disappeared until BES was complete.
 
it should appear under menu. Vlive doesn't use BIS, so you will be charged if you use it.
 
Oh but u don't have BIS so it shouldn't make a diff.
 
it seems the device was not registered on the vodafone site. though i'm pretty sure it should have been.
 
Thanks shake&bake, i'll definitely refer to your post IF i decide to buy a blackberry.
 
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