Bleh IS - Alter(UUNet)

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Is anyone else seeing a whole load of packet loss on IS's international route?

Code: 
HOST                                    LOSS  RCVD SENT    BEST     AVG   WORST
azrael.netlink.za.net                     0%    50   50    1.19    1.71    6.31
******************                      0%    50   50  104.79  128.90  380.18
196.39.41.130                             0%    50   50   92.42  143.25  441.31
168.209.3.3                               0%    50   50  100.61  129.85  427.19
168.209.0.29                              0%    50   50  124.20  149.31  261.10
168.209.2.3                               2%    49   50  125.81  146.47  185.09
168.209.0.6                               2%    49   50  354.11  402.72  519.97
core1b-ny.nmszone.is.co.za                0%    50   50  363.74  433.34  661.91
pos1-2.ig2.nyc4.alter.net                18%    41   50  392.37  420.12  447.10
0.so-0-0-0.xl2.nyc4.alter.net             8%    46   50  387.04  419.45  458.36
0.so-3-0-0.xl2.dfw13.alter.net            4%    48   50  437.85  466.00  586.80
pos7-0.gw1.dfw13.alter.net               18%    41   50  433.86  463.19  555.24
theplanet-gw.customer.alter.net          14%    43   50  433.71  474.21  761.72
dist-vlan31.dsr3-2.dllstx3.theplanet.com   12%    44   50  436.26  472.61  726.9
7
dist-vlan-42.dsr2-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com   26%    37   50  437.33  477.61  693.
64
gig1-0-1.sm-car6-9.dllstx4.theplanet.com    8%    46   50  438.07  467.85  611.7
9
chthon.slipgate.za.net                   18%    41   50  434.46  472.87  574.56
 
Thats an interesting traceroute app, what did you use?

As for IS's international route for ISadsl, its a totally different route, with 0% packet loss, except for the extremely high latencies...atleast speed is still 100%

Also note, they dont use uunet (alter.net) but instead at&t...

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms subaru.lan.restricted.co.za [10.0.0.2]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms cdsl1-rba-at6-0-11-is.isdsl.net [196.38.72.249]
4 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms curp1-rba-gi6.isdsl.net [196.38.72.238]
5 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms cdsl1-rba-gi0-1-43.isdsl.net [196.38.72.229]
6 20 ms 19 ms 18 ms is2-cr1-rba-gi0-1-41.isdsl.net [196.26.96.198]
7 602 ms 601 ms 617 ms 12.118.239.73
8 602 ms 604 ms 604 ms tbr2-p012301.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.13]
9 613 ms 610 ms 608 ms tbr2-cl7.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.46]
10 623 ms 624 ms 626 ms tbr2-cl6.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.10.90]
11 618 ms 621 ms 620 ms gar1-p370.dlrtx.ip.att.net [12.123.196.97]
12 619 ms 620 ms 622 ms 12.119.136.14
13 620 ms 620 ms 622 ms dist-vlan32.dsr3-2.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.62]
14 622 ms 628 ms 619 ms dist-vlan41.dsr2-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.127.83]
15 624 ms 622 ms 621 ms gig1-0-2.sm-car6-9.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.19.255.162]
16 622 ms 624 ms 624 ms chthon.slipgate.za.net [67.18.198.18]
Click to expand...
 
Yea its defenitly starting on that 168.209.2.3 router - I checked on PRS and I cant see any problems from that route either, so I guess its isolated to the dialup network (which they dont give a jack about)

thats from MTR - It does similtaneous TCP pings which lests you really see where the packet loss is starting.
 
thanx wamatt :)

Just for interest sake, the real UUNET-ADSL solution (heck it is not a solution!) :

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 499 ms 499 ms 484 ms atm4-0-0sub106.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.7.196.21]
3 468 ms * 421 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
4 609 ms 624 ms 609 ms atm1-1-0sub902.ir2.mia16.alter.net [196.30.229.209]
5 593 ms 640 ms 609 ms POS0-1-0.IH4.MIA4.ALTER.NET [152.63.86.145]
6 578 ms 578 ms 562 ms 302.at-5-1-0.CL2.MIA4.ALTER.NET [152.63.7.182]
7 593 ms 593 ms 593 ms 0.so-4-2-0.XL2.MIA4.ALTER.NET [152.63.101.46]
8 593 ms 593 ms 562 ms 0.so-4-2-0.XL2.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.81.81]
9 624 ms 624 ms 640 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR3.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.87.93]
10 687 ms 687 ms 703 ms so-1-1-0.gar2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.127.177]
11 749 ms 734 ms 749 ms so-3-3-0.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.96.13]
12 812 ms 781 ms 812 ms so-5-0-0.gar1.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.68.96.22]
13 890 ms 765 ms 796 ms 4.78.212.74
14 796 ms 781 ms 796 ms 216.239.46.142
15 781 ms 796 ms 796 ms 216.239.43.162
16 781 ms 781 ms 781 ms 64.233.187.99
Click to expand...
PS. That is on line that is idle!

I think this is in the wrong topic, but it fits well with the above for comparison, especially now that SAIX is gonna cap local. I think some people might want to look at the Internet-Solutions adsl accounts as an alternative. I mean R250/m for a 3gb account is not too bad, I hope they will keep it uncapped local after cap like they are doing it at the moment...
 
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Funny that I get better international latency on dialup than most of these ADSL lines are getting ;)

With that said, my problem was sorted out.
 
Tracing route to chthon.slipgate.za.net [67.18.198.18]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 18 ms 19 ms 21 ms wblv-146-192-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.192.1]

3 21 ms 19 ms 20 ms wblv-ip-er-1-fe-11-1-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196
.43.10.138]
4 351 ms 351 ms 352 ms ash-ip-dir-equinix-pos-5-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [1
96.43.9.106]
5 354 ms 347 ms 352 ms pos2-0.cr02.ash01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.94.17]
6 389 ms 386 ms 384 ms ge3-3.br01.dal01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.22.62]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 387 ms 389 ms 380 ms dist-vlan32.dsr3-2.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.62]
9 393 ms 398 ms 395 ms dist-vlan41.dsr2-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.83]
10 396 ms 391 ms 388 ms gig1-0-1.sm-car6-9.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.19.
255.34]
11 392 ms 385 ms 392 ms chthon.slipgate.za.net [67.18.198.18]

Trace complete.


:)
 
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