Bloemfontein Fiber

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Hi

I live in Langenhovenpark Bloemfontein and I am afraid the struggle is real. I can't get any indication on who or where fiber is available and at this moment I am not sure if we will ever see fiber. So if there are any Bloemfonteiners with information about fiber please help and maybe we can start sharing information.

Thanks
 
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Internet? In Bloemfontein? Don't be absurd.

I don't know of any FTTH offerings in Bloem as of yet.

They do actually have some infrastructure in place, but yeah, I'm in a major suburb in Cape Town and I can't get it, so don't hold your breath.
 
Hi

I live in Langenhovenpark Bloemfontein and I am afraid the struggle is real. I can't get any indication on who or where fiber is available and at this moment I am not sure if we will ever see fiber. So if there are any Bloemfonteiners with information about fiber please help and maybe we can start sharing information.

Thanks

I don't have any info on when you can get fibre unfortunately. A number of sidewalks in Bloem have been dug up in the past few years, and someone told me that those were fibre installations.
 
According the the coverage map on the Lightspeed site I should be able to get ftth where I live. :D
 
I called Lightspeed and all they said is that the map is a rough estimation and only the major roads were covered.
 
I called Lightspeed and all they said is that the map is a rough estimation and only the major roads were covered.

Lightspeed doesn't work that way as far as I know. They come and lay fibre if everyone on your street (or estate or whatever) are willing to sign up with them.
 
Lightspeed doesn't work that way as far as I know. They come and lay fibre if everyone on your street (or estate or whatever) are willing to sign up with them.

That's true. I phoned yesterday. I live about 300m from the nearest line. They require about R15 000 worth of business in the area to make it worth their while.

Which makes sense, I guess.
 
doesnt make sense

That's true. I phoned yesterday. I live about 300m from the nearest line. They require about R15 000 worth of business in the area to make it worth their while.

Which makes sense, I guess.

incorrect, it doesnt make sense they are milking the cow a 300 m connection should cost R1000 rand excluding all subscriction fees, cybersmart should get rid of their monopoly then we will have a chance if someone has any alternatives please post them on this thread

I am looking into a few and will keep you updated


Tooway
 
Am I the only one looking for fiber broadband??:wtf:

There may be a lot more interest. However if a place like Secunda can organize fibre forthemselves Bloem should also be able to. It is the road where a lot more effort is involved, however the results will be much greater if you take it. :-)

incorrect, it doesnt make sense they are milking the cow a 300 m connection should cost R1000 rand excluding all subscriction fees, cybersmart should get rid of their monopoly then we will have a chance if someone has any alternatives please post them on this thread

I am looking into a few and will keep you updated


Tooway

R1000 for 300m? How? Can I pay you R1000 to trench that distance for me? (I only need about 200m but I'm happy to still pay you R1000). Cybersmart does not have a monopoly in the area. Anyone can deliver services in Bloem if they wanted to. The tick is to make it attractive to them, and the only way to do that is to gather and grow interest in your area, and present that to the fibre providers. If they can get 30% of interest they will fall over each other to bring fibre to your area.
 
on this snarky comment "R1000 for 300m? How? Can I pay you R1000 to trench that distance for me?" I work for a higher salary than that, please check the workforce they use to do these trenches, ignorance is bliss.


now if someone had creative input on who we can contact to get fiber going in the the suburbs in Bloemfontein, please let me know thanks.
 
on this snarky comment "R1000 for 300m? How? Can I pay you R1000 to trench that distance for me?" I work for a higher salary than that, please check the workforce they use to do these trenches, ignorance is bliss.


now if someone had creative input on who we can contact to get fiber going in the the suburbs in Bloemfontein, please let me know thanks.

I'm sorry that you found my joke as snarky.

Most of us work for a higher salary than that, and so does the team that performs the trenching. It is not the same as digging a hole in your back yard. Excavator hire is approximately R250 per hour, without fuel. Assuming there are no obstructions, no underground pipes, or roots that you have to excavate around, forgetting about the time it takes to plan, get the correct permits and permissions, pay the salary of the team (guys digging, guy manning excavator, manager, overheads of company), the cost of actually laying the fibre, the cost of the fibre itself, other equipment that has to be bought installed and powered, crossing roads, creating manholes for maintenance, fixing accidental damage, closing the trench and leaving the surrounding area in a better condition than they found it, and so on and so on, it is easy to see that it would cost significantly more than R1k for 300 meters.

I have had face to face discussions with about 8 fibre providers for the Lynnwood Fibre Initiative. Most of them estimate the beginning to end cost of trenching around R300 per meter, and it varies significantly depending on what they find in the ground as they go along. Just getting the team there to start digging would already cost more than R1k.

If someone could trench 300m for R1k then everyone would be doing it. There is a lot of competition, and every rand a fibre provider can save they can pass on to the customer to win their business. Heck some of these guys are using robots to lay fibre in your sewage pipes! They are unfortunately not calling it fibre to the toilet.

Here is a list of fibre providers that we have made contact with. It is worth chatting to these guys to determine what they will and will not do. http://www.lynnwoodfibre.com/technical-intro. The list is not complete, but it could give you a good start.

Fibre providers invest millions to get the fibre in the ground, and they need a return on investment. The best way to lure a fibre provider (to date) is to show them there is interest. To do this spread the message in your community, and ask people to complete a survey where they indicate their interest. Using those interests, and the total number of homes in the area, take it to the fibre providers and ask them what they can deliver (through an RFP preferably). Pick the one with the best proposal and hand over to them to take it further.
 
"I have had face to face discussions with about 8 fibre providers for the Lynnwood Fibre Initiative. Most of them estimate the beginning to end cost of trenching around R300 per meter, and it varies significantly depending on what they find in the ground as they go along. Just getting the team there to start digging would already cost more than R1k."

I apologise it was R300 per meter I havnt spoken to my contact in a long time.

but my discussion after my apology is over with you, because even layign the ground work might be expensive, the prices they charge for fibre is idiotic, why do I say so, want to go back to dial up pricing and out first 512 Kb lines,

so have fun at Lynnwood Fibre Initiative - A community project to bring fast and affordable internet to Lynnwood Pretoria.
 
Fibre is being deployed since mid August in Bloemfontein, but only in 3 suburbs.

Here is the thread I made not to long ago:

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/726288-Bloemfontein-FTTH-Thread

I should actually take some more pics, since they have erected more poles along my street with more fibre equipment. Sadly, I don't think LHP will ever get fibre for a lot of reasons. You guys will have to cope with ADSL and VDSL I'm afraid for the time being.

See the coverage map here for more details: http://www.telkom.co.za/coverage/

:)
 
Fibre is coming to the biggest part of LHP in the near future. DFA plans to begin with the area above Merc and down towards Stuck in the Mud's side next to the N1.
 
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