BMW considers ditching car keys

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Bad idea!


Frankfurt motor show - BMW is reviewing the necessity of car keys, says Ian Robertson, the company’s board member responsible for sales.

The fact that customers now all carry a smartphone and the availability of a BMW App which allows customers to unlock their vehicle, has made old fashioned keys less relevant, he told Reuters at the Frankfurt motor show.

BMW's smartphone app allows drivers to control various functions of the car and the ability to use a phone as verification before starting the car could replace physical keys.

“Honestly, how many people really need it,” Robertson said in an interview, explaining that customers no longer had to put the key in the ignition to make the car start.

“They never take it out of their pocket, so why do I need to carry it around?,” Robertson said, adding that the company was looking at getting rid of keys altogether.

“We are looking at whether it is feasible, and whether we can do it. Whether we do it right now or at some point in the future, remains to be seen,” Robertson said.

Many modern cars have keyless operation and a start/stop button, but these are still accompanied by an electronic key fob which drivers carry in their pockets or handbags. Many of these still have physical keys as a backup in case the fob malfunctions.

Ditching a physical key altogether could mean one less thing to carry around, but it could also leave motorists stranded if their smartphone malfunctioned, was lost or stolen, or the battery died.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/bmw-considers-ditching-car-keys-11274916

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Yeah, so when you're in an area with no data coverage, you're basically fscked...
 
You are fscked in so many more ways than one
Lost/ stolen phone
Flat phone battery
Data cap reached
No wifi nearby
Etc
Better if they adapt fingerprint retina or face recognition tech directly to the vehicle
 
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You are fscked in so many more ways than one
Lost/ stolen phone
Flat phone battery
Data cap reached
No wifi nearby
Etc
Better if they adapt fingerprint retina or face recognition tech directly to the vehicle

Or they just leave the old fashioned, tested and proven car keys.
 
BMW thinking of killing off the car key completely

A high-ranking executive at BMW has revealed that the German brand is considering killing off the traditional car key.

Ian Robertson, who is the member of the board responsible for sales at the BMW Group, told Reuters that the traditional car key was no longer useful for many customers.

“Honestly, how many people really need it?” Robertson asked, adding that the majority of BMW’s new vehicles didn’t even require a key to be inserted into the ignition to start them.

“They never take it out of their pocket, so why do I need to carry it around?” he said.

An increasing number of vehicles in the BMW line-up can be unlocked via the owner’s smartphone using a BMW app, leading the Munich-based brand to consider dropping the old-fashioned, physical key altogether.

“We are looking at whether it is feasible, and whether we can do it. Whether we do it right now or at some point in the future, remains to be seen,” Robertson said.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/bmw-thinking-of-killing-off-the-car-key-completely/

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Great idea in Europe where there is free 1000MBps wifi for everyone, Efrica - not so much lol
 
More can go wrong with a phone than a key rendering you stranded in the event something happens. Rather go for a bio metric option or perhaps using the NFC chip in the phone? Not sure if NFC needs the phone to be powered on or not.
 
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Yeah, so when you're in an area with no data coverage, you're basically fscked...

You are fscked in so many more ways than one
Lost/ stolen phone
Flat phone battery
Data cap reached
No wifi nearby
Etc
Better if they adapt fingerprint retina or face recognition tech directly to the vehicle

No there is a way around it like Tesla uses.

Even if your phone is dead you can still open and operate the car.

There should also be no need for internet.
 
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More can go wrong with a phone than a key rendering you stranded in the event something happens. Rather go for a biometric option or perhaps an NFC chip in the phone? Not sure if NFC need the phone to be powered on or not.

That's exactly what they would use.

App when it's online which adds extra functions like remote start etc.

NFC when dead or broken.
 

The Model S is a bit different but I think part of the problem there is having two systems and that leads to confusion.

Remove all the confusion with only one system and it's just a case of changing habits over time.

I know with my BMW even if the battery in the keyless fob dies I need to just slide it under the seat to start the bike.

So there will certainly be a failover system in place...whether people will RTFM and know about it is another question.

Probably why the Model 3 switched to Bluetooth and therefore doesn't require internet.

http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-keycard-smartphone-access-via-bluetooth/
 
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The Model S is a bit different but I think part of the problem there is having two systems and that leads to confusion.

Remove all the confusion with only one system and it's just a case of changing habits over time.

I know with my BMW even if the battery in the keyless fob dies I need to just slide it under the seat to start the bike.

So there will certainly be a failover system in place...whether people will RTFM and know about it is another question.

Probably why the Model 3 switched to Bluetooth and therefore doesn't require internet.

http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-keycard-smartphone-access-via-bluetooth/

Generally, this is still an idea, the people at BMW still has to execute and it’s the execution that will matter. Currently, it is much assumption. Security is key today, there is no way they will compromise on accessing the vehicle by limiting it to a smartphone.
 
Although with an NFC option, you now need to wave your phone at your car every time and not as apposed to the current setup where having the key nearby is all that is required. Alternatively use multiple approaches, any of which will work in descending priority. Data first --> Bluetooth --> and finally NFC phone wave for a dead phone option.

This is all great until Bluetooth gets hacked. Wasn't Bluetooth just patched for a flaw?
 
Typical manufacturer mentality, more concerned with maximum profit on things they believe the consumer want driven by a marketing arty farty department that not once have spoken to what a client want.
 
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