Boks need a break

He's always clever after the fact. Never knows jack before something happens, but always has a mouthful to say when things don't work as expected.
 
He's always clever after the fact. Never knows jack before something happens, but always has a mouthful to say when things don't work as expected.

Firstly, he's not a fortune teller! He is -

Professor Tim Noakes MBChB, MD, DSc

Did you read you read the article before posting?

In July 1998, I was asked what did the Springboks need to do to win the 1999 Rugby World Cup.

My answer was that they should not travel to Europe at the end of the year.

Since the team was in the middle of the most successful winning period in Springbok history, the advice was not taken seriously.

Instead the team played one game too many on that European tour, losing its unbeaten record to England at Twickenham.
 
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Yeah Bwana. :rolleyes: Go back and read zeb's post. Then read mine again.

See now! Nothing about right or wrong, but referance to the " clever after the fact" and "knows jack before something happens". And the fact is that he's rather a bright lad and zeb (and yourself) had better be very bright in his field if you want to dispute his statements. ;)

Now! In my opinion, he's right. :)
 
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Nope it doesnt, but I reckon the bloke is in a far better position than any of us to make a call.

I dont think my heart will take the Springboks beating the Aussies next week.
Never before in Springbok history, or any other sporting code for that matter, have South Africans been presented with a better oppertunity to rub the Aussies noses in it :D

*prays to all the gods and devils to make it so*
 
Nope it doesnt, but I reckon the bloke is in a far better position than any of us to make a call.

I dont think my heart will take the Springboks beating the Aussies next week.
Never before in Springbok history, or any other sporting code for that matter, have South Africans been presented with a better oppertunity to rub the Aussies noses in it :D

*prays to all the gods and devils to make it so*

I'm with you Sneeky. Make it so! :)
 
Yeah Bwana. :rolleyes: Go back and read zeb's post. Then read mine again.

See now! Nothing about right or wrong, but referance to the " clever after the fact" and "knows jack before something happens". And the fact is that he's rather a bright lad and zeb (and yourself) had better be very bright in his field if you want to dispute his statements. ;)

Now! In my opinion, he's right. :)

I've been following Tim Noakes' statements for years now. If you did the same you'll know he's a professor of hindsight. He never, ever warns about fatigue or the possibility of injuries before they happen. Then when they do he jumps on the bandwagon with his "I knew it would happen" crap. I have no respect for him as a sport scientist.
 
And the fact is that he's rather a bright lad and zeb (and yourself) had better be very bright in his field if you want to dispute his statements. ;)

btw he's just stating the obvious (after the fact of course) You needn't be a professor to know we didn't win the 1999 World Cup.
 
Professor Timothy Noakes is a world-renowned professor of exercise and sports science at the University of Cape Town. He has run more than 70 marathons and ultramarathons, and is the author of the running book "Lore of Running" (ISBN 0-87322-959-2).He was born in 1949 and attended Monterey Preparatory School in Constantia, Cape Town, then Diocesan College. As a young boy his main sporting interest was cricket.

In 1980 Prof Noakes was tasked to start a sports science course at the University of Cape Town. From these humble beginnings Prof Noakes went on head the Medical Research Council funded "Bioenergetics of Exercise Research Unit," (BERU), which was later changed to the MRC/UCT Research Unit for Exercise Science and Sports Medicine.

In the early 1990s Prof Noakes co-founded the Sports Science Institute of South Africa with former South African rugby player Morne du Plessis. In these new facilities his research unit's physiological research has thrived since 1996, producing over 370 scientific articles (and counting) during this time period.

Although Prof Noakes is well known in academic circles for the high caliber of his scientific insight and work, he is perhaps best known for being the first to publish a scientific paper on the condition now know as Exercise Associated Hyponatremia (EAH). He first recognized this condition in a female runner during the 1984 Comrades Marathon, and published his findings in Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise in 1985. Prof Noakes continues to contribute to our understanding of this condition.

Noakes is also well known for challenging common and old paradigms in the discipline of Exercise Physiology, namely the VO2 max plateau theory. More recently he has produced much evidence for a central governor model of exercise in which the brain is the primary organ that dictates how fast, how long, and how hard humans can exercise.

In 2004 he was awarded a Doctorate in Science (DSc), the highest degree the University of Cape Town can award, for his seminal contributions over the years. He is also the author of the popular book and "runner's bible," The Lore of Running, which is in its fourth edition by Oxford University Press.

If it is ok with you zeb, I think I am gonna put my money on Noakes rather than,,,,
I've been following Tim Noakes' statements for years now. If you did the same you'll know he's a professor of hindsight. He never, ever warns about fatigue or the possibility of injuries before they happen. Then when they do he jumps on the bandwagon with his "I knew it would happen" crap. I have no respect for him as a sport scientist.
 
If it is ok with you zeb, I think I am gonna put my money on Noakes rather than,,,,
Hey, it's your money. If you want to back the dark horse you go right ahead ;)
 
*Sorry going OT*

Whether right or wrong, I think the entire approach by Oz (who is a black pot too by the way) is only making things worse by bitching. The hype and stir they have caused will all but sink them if we do beat them, which imo is a likely out come. The Ozzie's have been playing some of the worst and most erratic rugby this season. The fact that the Ozzie's say they had the best game since forever against us and all they had 70% possession and their only try was a huge blunder by a poor referee does not bode well for them. They should have shut their mouths until the match was over. Maybe they were relying on us sending over the exhausted bunch to make it easier for themselves.

Proof that it was no try before anyone starts shouting


and...

Spies should never have been binned.


So a more correct score would have been 22-9, I would really not get on my high horse over that!
 
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So a more correct score would have been 22-9, I would really not get on my high horse over that!

Hell James. This will really piss you off. I hope we spank them next week. They're begging for it. It's just the ****'ng comeupance they need.

Aussies just won’t let it go by Dan Retief

Posted on 29 June 2007 - 05:04

You would think Australian rugby has a bigger fish to fry -- an All Black one -- but on Thursday the skillet was once again being warmed to fry the Springboks.

John O’Neill marked his return to the ARU for a second spell as chief executive with a stinging broadside at SA Rugby over Jake White’s decision to tour with a weakened side.

Speaking at the aptly named Weary Dunlop lunch in Melbourne -- where the Wallabies on Saturday take on the All Blacks at the MCG -- O’Neill proclaimed his disgust at the fact that so many top Springboks were left at home.

O’Neill, whose remarks were given top-of-the-page coverage in all three Sydney morning newspapers, "The Sydney Morning Herald", “The Daily Telegraph” and “The Australian,” said the SA Rugby Union had been disrespectful to the ARU, SANZAR, broadcasters, sponsors and local spectators.

He added that if visiting teams kept sending B-grade line-ups to Australia it may be better to end inbound tours and instead play an expanded Super rugby competition through June and July -- to the obvious delight of his Melbourne audience, the city which lost out to Perth when Australia’s fourth Super team was launched.

O’Neill said he was “very angry” about the Springbok stance, adding that South Africa’s response to a letter of complaint from ARU chairman Peter McGrath was “very unsatisfactory”.

“They were challenging us to challenge their medical opinion. They were saying to us that, ‘how could you tell us what the physical states of our players are?’” O’Neill is quoted as saying. “To a certain extent they have boxed us in. And I will be suggesting when they’re here, that we have some private, definitive discussions about the damage this had done to Australian rugby’s reputation.

“Broadcasters, sponsors and the fans have relied in good faith on a contest that involved the best Australia and South Africa has to offer. If this was a normal commercial transaction and one party has arguably not met their part of the bargain, and it cost the other party money, you would be looking at some claim for damages.

“That’s not the rugby way. And I accept that. But I think the quantification of the financial damage, and the reputational (sic) damage to the ARU has to be spelt out to them.”

O’Neill said the ARU expected to lose more than $200 000 in revenue because of spectator backlash to an understrength Springbok side for the Telstra Stadium Tri-Nations match on July 7.

“We need to explain to them that in a market like ours, with such a selection of sporting content from which to choose, they can’t let us down like that. I would have expected more from South Africa considering the value of our relationship. We supported their return to the game in 1992. We’ve supported them on transformation issues more than any other country. At its worst, this is a very cynical sign of disrespect for the SANZAR relationship.”

According to the “Sydney Morning Herald” some ARU officials are pondering whether the Springboks should finally be cast aside, the Tri-Nations dismantled and Australia focus on playing New Zealand more times each season -- obviously oblivious to the fact that South Africa, in terms of crowds and financial clout, is the strongest of the three SANZAR partners.

http://www.superrugby.co.za/default.asp?id=220170&des=article&scat=superrugby/springboks
 
yeah saw that, ARU wants SA to pay the union too. Idiots, try prove that we did not send the best team we could. Idiots!
 
boks could of rested throughout some of the super14 and during 2 test matches prior to tri-nations. lol, now is not the time 2 rest.
 
boks could of rested throughout some of the super14 and during 2 test matches prior to tri-nations. lol, now is not the time 2 rest.

Well we know where your allegiance lies! :)

Like I said before. In a test match you always put your best team on the park, except this time it's the Aussies whining so **** 'em. :D

Anyway, how can they claim that this is not the best team available. Cheeky cretins! :cool:
 
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Well, i dont know how they gunna fill the stadium knowing that SA's B side is touring, perhaps the saffers in oz wont care and will just goto the game anyway...
 
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