Bombshell Claim: Scientists Find "Man-made Climate Change Doesn't Exist In Practice"

Over the past week, we have seen how insidious this CC stuff is.

A Soccer game in South America called off due to "smoke pollution". --- blamed on social media and press on the Amazon jungle fires. Then the truth comes out -- a building fire close to the stadium was the source of the smoke.

Last night a report on all the local news channels about the disappearance of great white sharks out of False Bay -- since April this year. Various people interviewed including "shark spotters" who all passed an opinion that this was due to "Climate Change"

Both of these illustrates how absolutely ridiculous this nonsense is.
 
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rietrot said:

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Okay so the silly "hockey stick" man made climate change is officially dead.
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I'm still waiting for your response: what's your highest scientific qualification and what mark did you achieve for it?

By the way, do you know the actual reasons for the dismissal of Mann's case? Ball didn't "win", and the court didn't rule that Mann was a fraud, as the climate change skeptics are saying. Ball asked the court to dismiss the case because there had been many delays and he is 80 years old and his health is failing.
 
Geoff.D said:
Over the past week, we have seen out insidious this CC stuff is.

A Soccer game in Soth Anrerica called off due to "smoke pollution. --- blamed on social media and press on the Amazon jungle fires. Then the truth comes out -- a building fire close to the stadium was the source of the smoke.

Last night a report on all the local news channels about the disappearance of great white sharks out of False Bay -- since April this year. Various people interviewed including "shark spotters" who all passed an opinion that this was due to "Climate Change"

Both of these illustrates how absolutely ridiculous this nonsense is.
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Your argument is flawed: you are arguing against a generally accepted (by actual climate scientists) scientific theory based on the misunderstandings of the person in the street.
 
lumeer said:
I'm still waiting for your response: what's your highest scientific qualification and what mark did you achieve for it?

By the way, do you know the actual reasons for the dismissal of Mann's case? Ball didn't "win", and the court didn't rule that Mann was a fraud, as the climate change skeptics are saying. Ball asked the court to dismiss the case because there had been many delays and he is 80 years old and his health is failing.
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I'm entirely self taught. It's the information age. All information is available to everyone with a quick and free Google search. Do you want to see all my certificates that I write to myself giving myself 100% each time?

Yeah it's all in the link I posted. The fraud doesn't want to make his data public even though it was publicly funded.
 
Geoff.D said:
Over the past week, we have seen how insidious this CC stuff is.

A Soccer game in South America called off due to "smoke pollution". --- blamed on social media and press on the Amazon jungle fires. Then the truth comes out -- a building fire close to the stadium was the source of the smoke.

Last night a report on all the local news channels about the disappearance of great white sharks out of False Bay -- since April this year. Various people interviewed including "shark spotters" who all passed an opinion that this was due to "Climate Change"

Both of these illustrates how absolutely ridiculous this nonsense is.
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lumeer said:
Your argument is flawed: you are arguing against a generally accepted (by actual climate scientists) scientific theory based on the misunderstandings of the person in the street.
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The same BS again on the local news yesterday. A crises because no great whites have been seen in False Bay since April. Apparently, the have all moved up the east coast. "The Orcas and Climate Change is responsible.
The ACC brigade is informing Joe Soap and his girl friend or wife, just with the info they want them to have.
 
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It is by no means a scientifically proven fact that CO2 emissions is responsible for (the cause of) "global warming".
Its about politics - its about lies, money, control, and ultimately about power.
 
Geoff.D said:
The same BS again on the local news yesterday. A crises because no great whites have been seen in False Bay since April. Apparently, the have all moved up the east coast. "The Orcas and Climate Change is responsible.
The ACC brigade is informing Joe Soap and his girl friend or wife, just with the info they want them to have.
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And what is your reason for dismissing climate change as a cause? I take it that, in addition to being an expert on climate science, you're also an expert marine biologist? This thread is full of experts, after all. I'll pose the same question to you as to rietrot: what's your highest scientific qualification and what marks did you achieve in it?
 
rietrot said:
I'm entirely self taught. It's the information age. All information is available to everyone with a quick and free Google search. Do you want to see all my certificates that I write to myself giving myself 100% each time?

Yeah it's all in the link I posted. The fraud doesn't want to make his data public even though it was publicly funded.
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Ah, so textbook Dunning-Kruger stuff playing out in this thread. You keep doing your quick Google searches, the rest of us will listen to the actual climate scientists.
 
Ponderer said:
It is by no means a scientifically proven fact that CO2 emissions is responsible for (the cause of) "global warming".
Its about politics - its about lies, money, control, and ultimately about power.
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According to the actual climate scientists, it is a scientifically proven fact. Tell us, what's your highest scientific qualification, and what mark did you achieve for it?
 
lumeer said:
According to the actual climate scientists, it is a scientifically proven fact. Tell us, what's your highest scientific qualification, and what mark did you achieve for it?
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Don't need no qualifications to know that when its politically driven then it's corrupt.
I'm amazed that people could look at what's happening in the world and still think 'Oh this time they are sincere, really concerned about humanity & not just in it for the money'.
Lol, some people just never get it..
 
lumeer said:
And what is your reason for dismissing climate change as a cause?
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Because it is just wishful thinking. Science, completely devoid of science.

If you want to blame climate change you have to do two things.
1. Show the water temperature has changed.
2. Show that great whites don't like the new temperature.

Sould be easy enough.

That still doesn't get to the cause being man, but at least it is a change in the climate as claimed.
 
That is precisely the point. Marine Biologists have dismissed the public rhetoric about Orcas chasing the sharks away. And NO marine biologist has made ANY CC related claims either. It is just Joe and co plus the marine tourism operators that are making these outrageous claims, which the local media then sensationalises and grabs on to CC to sell their fake news stories.
The marine biologists are simply reporting on their observations in 2018 and 2019 so far.
 
Geoff.D said:
That is precisely the point. Marine Biologists have dismissed the public rhetoric about Orcas chasing the sharks away. And NO marine biologist has made ANY CC related claims either. It is just Joe and co plus the marine tourism operators that are making these outrageous claims, which the local media then sensationalises and grabs on to CC to sell their fake news stories.
The marine biologists are simply reporting on their observations in 2018 and 2019 so far.
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the chinese hunted them all! lol :p
 
lumeer said:
According to the actual climate scientists, it is a scientifically proven fact. Tell us, what's your highest scientific qualification, and what mark did you achieve for it?
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According to some "climate scientists" it is a scientifically proven fact.
According to some "climate scientists" it is not a scientifically proven fact.

It depends on what/who you choose to believe.
What does science (as to scientists) say.

BTW - what be your scientific credentials?
 
lumeer said:
According to the actual climate scientists, it is a scientifically proven fact. Tell us, what's your highest scientific qualification, and what mark did you achieve for it?
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This is the classic "argument from authority" logical fallacy. The truth is that data can be evaluated by anyone with sufficient statistical ability regardless of it's context, i.e. you don't have to be a climate scientist to question things like manually modified data sets, missing points arbitrarily inserted, why some data would be excluded and not other data etc, etc. Ditto, computer models, i.e. anyone should be able to backtest them to assess their viability.
 
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