Brain Fart

[ambo]

Ok so i was thinking - brain farting like my friends like to say...

Telkom's port shaping is supposedly supposed to protect their network from abuse - right? So that people who use up their cap won't slow down the network when they get stuck on the slow link - right?

Now the new Nov pricing structure is pretty much inevitable. While i don't agree with the prices - the stucture does make it more fair across the board for all users.

But - here it comes - if the new system is based on hard capping... what benefit is port shaping to the whole arrangement. If power users want to use up their whole cap then they will, doesn't really matter what protocol they use. And once the cap is finished they are switched off and not disadvantaging other users in any way.

All this port shaping is actually doing is disavantaging ALL users who need - or want - to use non http/ftp/pop/smtp ports - which in the case of ADSL would (i guess) be 95% of people. Most people use skype, msn mess, irc, game or something sepparate from the basic ports...

 

[PsychoZA]

Telkom doesn't care, remember they can make more money if they offer a crap overpriced service and an even higher priced slightly less crap service like unshaped accounts...

 

[BobTheUglgBunny]

Protocols like http can be cached (therbeby reducing load) and email isn't exactly time sensitive (so it can be easly bandwidth managed). Perhaps they ely on this to maintain their multiplex ratios?

But it is a good point.....

 

[Roman4604]

I believe Telkom's justification for continuing P2P shaping would go something like this ...

ADSL is a highly contended service and that is why its price/throughput ratio is so much better than a leased line with a small fixed contention ratio and guarenteed throughput.

The whole ADSL pricing model is based on the premise that users demand for bandwidth will be sporadic & bursty, and that statistically only a portion of the users will demand maximum bandwidth at exactly the same instant.

P2P breaks this model as the bandwidth demands it introduces are steady and continuous, and this is why Telkom are so eager to continue with P2P shaping (throttling).

 

[BobTheUglgBunny]

That makes sense and it true, but surely a 3gig cap kinda ensures users spread their traffic out regardless of what protocol they use (maybe they expect problems on the first day of every month

 

[ambo]

...but surely a 3gig cap kinda ensures users spread their traffic out regardless of what protocol they use

Exactly my point

(maybe they expect problems on the first day of every month

A second fart i had - why don't they spread users out on different billing cycles so that different users renew their cap on different days thus resolving this rediculous situation we have at the moment of the net crawling 1-7 of every month and under utilised 23-31...

Has rpm had his little meeting with telkom's ceo yet - i wonder if he's accepting suggestions to improve his service?!? or is there a little suggestion box it their head office

 

[bekdik]

why don't they spread users out on different billing cycles so that different users renew their cap on different days thus resolving this rediculous situation we have at the moment of the net crawling 1-7 of every month and under utilised 23-31..

That's way beyond their competance level! They can't even keep a few routers working for longer than a few minutes at a time