Britain updates rules banning 3D-printer guns

[jes]

Britain updates rules banning 3D-printer guns

Unlicensed 3D printing of guns is illegal and punishable by up to 10 years in prison

 

[Space_Chief]

Britain updates rules banning 3D-printer guns

Unlicensed 3D printing of guns is illegal and punishable by up to 10 years in prison

If they can ban these, they can ban Bitcoins. Or can they?

 

[Petec]

Much easier to make a bow and arrow and go kill with that.
Better yet, just grab a brick and throw it at them.
Stupid laws are stupid. Why waste time and money complicating things?

 

[Sonic2k]

Sjoe... the leading nanny state acts fast on this.

 

[genetic]

It's still not gonna stop people making them.

 

[Sonic2k]

The next step... they'll make 3D printers illegal.
* First they come with this crap
* Then the cry babies from industry will come... "BBBUT YOUR HONOUR HE COPIED OUR WHIZZBANG $50 million a year product"
And then it will be like doing downloading movies... stiff sentences if you're caught.

This has proven what has already been known for a long time...

IQ of government < IQ of the citizens they "lord over"

 

[JerryMungo]

It's still not gonna stop people making them.

The number of people making them will be greatly reduced and they have legal recourse against people who do make them... if they didn't pass the law, what would they do if they found gangsters in possession?

 

[noxibox]

Try hijacking a plane wiff a brick ROFL.

Wouldn't be that hard actually. In fact there are any number of things I could turn into a weapon.

The number of people making them will be greatly reduced and they have legal recourse against people who do make them... if they didn't pass the law, what would they do if they found gangsters in possession?

They already have a law. The people who make these guns to use to commit other crimes are going to make them anyway. This is easily a slippery slope to requiring a license to own a 3D printer. I would not put it past the interfering twits that masquerade as leaders in the UK.

Sjoe... the leading nanny state acts fast on this.

I think they're falling behind Australia in that race. That country seems to be at the forefront of taking control of every little aspect of people's lives.

 

[JerryMungo]

Wouldn't be that hard actually. In fact there are any number of things I could turn into a weapon.

If you can't comprehend the difference in effectiveness then I don't know.

They already have a law.

They do? Which one is that? So what you're saying it's already covered?

 

[Space_Chief]

Not that stupid given the potential to conceal a gun is higher, as is the potential to threaten people with it. Try hijacking a plane wiff a brick ROFL.

911. They used guns to hijack those planes?

 

[Space_Chief]

The number of people making them will be greatly reduced and they have legal recourse against people who do make them... if they didn't pass the law, what would they do if they found gangsters in possession?

If you outlaw 3D printable weapons, only outlaws will have 3D printable weapons.

 

[Space_Chief]

Surely it's possible to make a gun without a 3D printer. You know metallurgy 101.

 

[chrisc]

Why go to the trouble of printing a 3D gun with metal components, when you can buy a Chinese working replica for R 150?

 

[Space_Chief]

Why go to the trouble of printing a 3D gun with metal components, when you can buy a Chinese working replica for R 150?

If you can't buy. At the end those with resources (terrorist, organised crime, highly dedicated individuals) will be able to buy or create. Those regular Joes who cannot, will just have to rely on the police to protect them.

 

[InvisibleJim]

They already have a law. The people who make these guns to use to commit other crimes are going to make them anyway. This is easily a slippery slope to requiring a license to own a 3D printer. I would not put it past the interfering twits that masquerade as leaders in the UK.

I doubt they would go that way. You could build a much more serviceable firearm using lathes and milling machines and those are not regulated in that way.

 

[JerryMungo]

If you outlaw 3D printable weapons, only outlaws will have 3D printable weapons.

Well at least you'd have a legal system in place to prosecute them. Duh.

Surely it's possible to make a gun without a 3D printer. You know metallurgy 101.

Not every tom dick and harry has access to those skills and tools. It's far easier with puter and printer.

911. They used guns to hijack those planes?

They used bricks?

Why go to the trouble of printing a 3D gun with metal components, when you can buy a Chinese working replica for R 150?

Sure, and you can be arrested for buying or owning one.

So here are the UK related gun deaths stats for anyone interested
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Sort by Homicides and compare to the US and SA.

 

[Space_Chief]

Not every tom dick and harry has access to those skills and tools. It's far easier with puter and printer.

A determined or wealthy enough Tom, Dick and Harry will get those skills and make guns. Not every Tom, Dick and Harry can get a good quality 3D printer and the right schematics and materials.

They used bricks?

Point is that guns are not necessary to bring down an airliner. It is now thought that fluids over 100ml can bring down airliners. Yes a sharp broken brick held to the throat of an air stewardess could hijack a plane. Heck one's bare hands on the larynx of a pilot will hijack a plane.

Sure, and you can be arrested for buying or owning one.

So here are the UK related gun deaths stats for anyone interested
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Sort by Homicides and compare to the US and SA.

The point is that the vast majority of legal gun owners in USA don't commit crimes. Same for SA. A gun is still the most effective way of self protection. A child or a feeble woman can stop a group of large attackers with a gun and proper training. When you remove guns in totality, you also prevent these people from protecting themselves, especially in SA where there is so much rape and violence towards women. In US most gun crime is perpetrated by gang bangers. Why these people are not disarmed, I dunno. But your farmer or lawyer or plumber who owns a gun or several is not a threat.

 

[D.B.Cooper]

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[JerryMungo]

A determined or wealthy enough Tom, Dick and Harry will get those skills and make guns. Not every Tom, Dick and Harry can get a good quality 3D printer and the right schematics and materials.

They're very much rentable. Schematics are on the web thanks to a couple of yanks.

Point is that guns are not necessary to bring down an airliner. It is now thought that fluids over 100ml can bring down airliners. Yes a sharp broken brick held to the throat of an air stewardess could hijack a plane. Heck one's bare hands on the larynx of a pilot will hijack a plane.

My point is that guns enable anybody to hijack a plane. Your scenarios are unlikely and require special combat skills.

The point is that the vast majority of legal gun owners in USA don't commit crimes. Same for SA. A gun is still the most effective way of self protection. A child or a feeble woman can stop a group of large attackers with a gun and proper training. When you remove guns in totality, you also prevent these people from protecting themselves, especially in SA where there is so much rape and violence towards women. In US most gun crime is perpetrated by gang bangers. Why these people are not disarmed, I dunno. But your farmer or lawyer or plumber who owns a gun or several is not a threat.

Still doesn't change the stats. Brits have one of the lowest gun related death rates world wide.

 

[Space_Chief]

They're very much rentable. Schematics are on the web thanks to a couple of yanks.

And since technology is evolving no doubt one will be able to assemble a 3D printer soon enough with off the shelf parts.

My point is that guns enable anybody to hijack a plane. Your scenarios are unlikely and require special combat skills.

Yeah but one can hijack a plane with 100ml+ of fluid or else we'd be allowed to bring bottled water onto the plane. You don't need a gun. You don't need any special training. Those 911 guys were not elite martial arts or commando guys.

Guns do allow weak people to protect themselves from strong ones. But a strong person or a person armed with a "bomb" or a reasonably organised group of weak assailants armed with bread knives took down 4 planes on 911.

Still doesn't change the stats. Brits have one of the lowest gun related death rates world wide.

Yeah, but that's because their society is different. They never had the high level of gang violence one sees in LA, San Francisco or Detroit. Most gun owners in USA are low risk and illegal weapons can and do enter through the porous border with Mexico. I don't see weapons coming in from France across the Channel or Scotland. Brits are probably also easier to disarm. British police would probably cr-p themselves if they had to come up against these gang bangers in the States.