Or the freedom to sit at home and spit and undermine those fighting for your freedom and get them killed?
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Or the freedom to sit at home and spit and undermine those fighting for your freedom and get them killed?
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Fudzy
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Either way, the senselessness of it all continues.
chiskop
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1. I'm not spitting, just chortling.
2. Whose freedom? Relax the islamo-facist paranoia there, I was safer before anyone went to Iraq to [-]find the WMD's[/-] [-]bring liberty[/-] fight for my freedom.
2. Whose freedom? Relax the islamo-facist paranoia there, I was safer before anyone went to Iraq to [-]find the WMD's[/-] [-]bring liberty[/-] fight for my freedom.
Yeah real laugh spreading proven lies like "shock troops" suffering delusions that there "aren't that many positive" stories when there is a treasure trove of them. Not only is it bad enough to go around [-]chortling[/-] spitting on these brave people and their families but you mislead innocent Iraqi's into the arms of genocidal jihad’s who unleash horrific and barbaric acts against them.
Really and what if Iraq was a stable democratic country? Would you and the people of neighboring states not be far safer than when they had the despot tyrant around. Was the freedom of Englishmen not safer before they went to war against the Nazis? Was the freedom of Americans not safer before they went to war against the North Koreans or in the first Gulf war? So even if you lose some of your safety in the short term in the long term you will gain far more safety.
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So why'd the "freedom lovers" aka CIA have saddam installed in the first place?
Why'd they block Iraq's attempt to peacefully resolve the slant drilling at the UN?
Rubbish.
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They died in vain so few could gain. Disgusting.
*spit* on Bush, Howard, Blair/Brown etal; and those who support them.
(Stupid war. Stupid deaths. Unsanctioned. Illegal. Their lies. Their propaganda. Their crimes against humanity.)
They are not fit to lead the brave and honourable 'cause they have NONE!
*spit* on Bush, Howard, Blair/Brown etal; and those who support them.
(Stupid war. Stupid deaths. Unsanctioned. Illegal. Their lies. Their propaganda. Their crimes against humanity.)
They are not fit to lead the brave and honourable 'cause they have NONE!
marine1
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Bravery and Honour? And I suppose the suicide bombers do?
nocilah
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whaa? there was a war in iraq?
chiskop
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Yes, but you'll having to check with alanf for the latest score. I haven't been following closely.
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Fudzy
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Check here - http://icasualties.org/oif/
chiskop
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You think this thing is going to take another 95 years?
I hope not
but I think it's sobering to see what Europe was like 100 years ago, how it is now and at what cost.chiskop
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Difference being, of course that Europe did it by itself, without foreign occupations, made-up stories of WMD, bringing democracy etc.
No matter how much you repeat it alan, it doesn't make this WWII all over again.
No matter how much you repeat it alan, it doesn't make this WWII all over again.
Difference being, of course that Europe did it by itself, without foreign occupations, made-up stories of WMD, bringing democracy etc.
No matter how much you repeat it alan, it doesn't make this WWII all over again.
Maybe you need to check you history books as if you ever have
Just like no matter how much you repeat it pacifism won't work. Ignoring history doesn't exempt you from repeating the same mistakes again
Oh by the way it's more than WW2 and not confined to Europe chiskop
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You were the one who confined it to Europe, and who brings up wwii incessantly.
Nevertheless, I am not necessarily advocating pacifism, just not invading other people's countries. (Yes, alan, there is a difference.) Show me where an invasion bought peace/stability/democracy to any country?
Nevertheless, I am not necessarily advocating pacifism, just not invading other people's countries. (Yes, alan, there is a difference.) Show me where an invasion bought peace/stability/democracy to any country?
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Maybe you need to check you history books as if you ever have
Just like no matter how much you repeat it pacifism won't work. Ignoring history doesn't exempt you from repeating the same mistakes again
YOU go read the history books, you ignorant troll. WW2 happened because the allies, like idiots, decided to blame germany for WW1 entirely and unjustly and tried to force Germany to 'pay' everyone else reparations. Had this not occured, there would have been no WW2.
And what caused WW1? An arms race.
Thus, the history that you claim to hold to so strongly disproves your own views as utter rubbish.
Bwahahahaha you can't be serious
Then you say I go on and on about WW2. Obviously I need to go over it again 
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WW2 was a response to an invasion by the allies, not the initiation of an invasion by the allies. Furthermore, after the war was concluded, the allied forces pumped massive funds into the axis economies where possible in order to strengthen their societies. This is vastly different to the current tactics of launching invasions and profiteering from the raw materials that the invaded country has at the detriment of the local populace.Bwahahahaha you can't be serious
Invasions today by the US govt bear no tangible resemblence to the actions of the WW2 allies 60 years ago. To attempt to construe the two as being similar is nothing less than disingenuous.