BSC IT at UNISA

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Hi Guys.

I just wanted to find out from you what you think of the BSC IT at UNISA?
I am thinking of starting it either 2013, but more likely 2014.

Also, what are your feelings on working full time and studying a BSC IT part time ... doable, or very high failure rate due to the difficulty?

Problem is, I can't just stop working and study as by then I will have qualified as a CA(SA), and so need to work and move on with my life at the same time ... but I really do want to do the degree ... I want to get into work positions that mix a IT and Business.

Also, is a BSC IT the same as Computer Engineering ... I thought it was, but some say it isn't ... so what's the difference?

Thanks

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Itai
 
Also, is a BSC IT the same as Computer Engineering ...

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Computer engineering is a discipline that integrates several fields of electrical engineering and computer science required to develop computer systems.[1] Computer engineers usually have training in electronic engineering (or electrical engineering), software design, and hardware-software integration instead of only software engineering or electronic engineering.

Information Technology (IT) is the branch of engineering that deals with the use of computers to store, retrieve and transmit information.
 

Sorry, I meant Software Engineering more specifically ... so is a Bsc IT the same as Software Engineering?

And if I, say, wanted to do an honours in AI ... is that the Software Engineering route?

Or let me ask it this way, what did guys like Mark Z, Gates and Jobs study in terms of whatever the South African equivalent is called. (No, I'm not expecting to be the next one of them, but I want to study whatever it is that would allow me to create and or understand whatever they created)

For example, if Google had to hire me tomorrow to head up Android ... or some other idea I came up with ... what would be the most effective degree at my disposal? I am guessing BSC IT / Software Engineering?
 
It's not difficult provided you put in the hours.

I did applied maths through them, but chose a few computer science modules to make up the numbers. The content and difficulty is pretty much what you would get at any university (did electrical engineering at Wits prior to this, and there was quite a lot in common).

Anyway depending on whether you're doing year modules, I wouldn't recommend doing more than 4-8 modules per year. By this I mean 4 year modules max, or 8 semester modules (4 per semester) max. Anything more and you just won't have the time come exam time.
 
Itai, alternatively look at a B.Comm IT. Your CA will mean that you can probably get credit for a bunch of modules and have a lighter workload. Also, it would be more business-orientated where a B.Sc IT has a chunk of math, physics if you want, etc. coupled with the IT modules.
 
And also, if I wanted a taste into the hardware side of things (I enjoy electronics, but don't really know what I'm doing) ... would I have to go the computer engineering route ... or could I say, take an additional electronics module?

I'm not intending on being able to design iRobot ... just to tinker with nonsense, maybe some IT/Electronics interfacing?
 
Sorry, I meant Software Engineering more specifically ... so is a Bsc IT the same as Software Engineering?

And if I, say, wanted to do an honours in AI ... is that the Software Engineering route?

Or let me ask it this way, what did guys like Mark Z, Gates and Jobs study in terms of whatever the South African equivalent is called. (No, I'm not expecting to be the next one of them, but I want to study whatever it is that would allow me to create and or understand whatever they created)

For example, if Google had to hire me tomorrow to head up Android ... or some other idea I came up with ... what would be the most effective degree at my disposal? I am guessing BSC IT / Software Engineering?

What you're describing seems more like computer science than IT.
 
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And if I, say, wanted to do an honours in AI ... is that the Software Engineering route?

There's no such thing as an "honours in AI", not at UNISA at least. You can do your research modules with AI as a topic, sure, but that's the extent of it. There's also a machine learning module at honours level, which is pretty cool.

Ps. They ditched "B.Sc IT Honours" and other variants, now it is just "B.Sc Computing", which covers both engineering and B.Sc IT degrees, with module choices including some business-related subjects. Personally, I found the available choices excellent. It's worth doing some research into them before making any choices though.
 
Itai, alternatively look at a B.Comm IT. Your CA will mean that you can probably get credit for a bunch of modules and have a lighter workload. Also, it would be more business-orientated where a B.Sc IT has a chunk of math, physics if you want, etc. coupled with the IT modules.

Thanks ... I don't want it to be too business orientated ... I am not planning on using IT in the economic or financial environment ... I can't see myself designing Pastel ... I can see myself *reinventing Twitter and or Facebook (Obviously not, but it should help you understand my intentions :P) ... I get ton's of software and website idea's all the time, and right now ... I'm stuck with them unless I get outside help.

For example, I had an idea similar to Second World once (Before I knew it existed) ... and god knows I wouldn't have a clue where to begin with something like that :P
 
There's no such thing as an "honours in AI", not at UNISA at least. You can do your research modules with AI as a topic, sure, but that's the extent of it. There's also a machine learning module at honours level, which is pretty cool.

Ps. They ditched "B.Sc IT Honours" and other variants, now it is just "B.Sc Computing", which covers both engineering and B.Sc IT degrees, with module choices including some business-related subjects. Personally, I found the available choices excellent. It's worth doing some research into them before making any choices though.

Thanks Messuga. I only really ever found out info about BSC IT at UJ when I was still there, but didn't look into it much ... just saw some modules ... I thought there was a specialisation in AI, but only cause I remember seeing that subject somewhere :p

So at Unisa ... you have a choice of subjects that end up in your final BSc Computing degree?

Can someone give me a brief explanation of with the Difference is between Computer Science / Computer(Or software) Engineering and IT ... to me, they were all one and the same, but clearly not.
 
It's not difficult provided you put in the hours.

I did applied maths through them, but chose a few computer science modules to make up the numbers. The content and difficulty is pretty much what you would get at any university (did electrical engineering at Wits prior to this, and there was quite a lot in common).

Anyway depending on whether you're doing year modules, I wouldn't recommend doing more than 4-8 modules per year. By this I mean 4 year modules max, or 8 semester modules (4 per semester) max. Anything more and you just won't have the time come exam time.

That makes sense ... even for Accounting 3rd year and Honours ... we only had 4 subjects in order not to overload.
 
Itai, alternatively look at a B.Comm IT.
I got this from the brochure
The last year in which students can register for the firs time for this degree is 2011 as this degree is being phased out thereafter. From 2012 no new registrations will be accepted for this degree. Students registering in 2011 for the first time for this degree must complete their degree in a period of five years, by end of 2014. After 2014 no registrations for any of the modules for this degree will be accepted.
But there is BComm in Business Informatics. Not sure if it replaced that that BComm IT.
 
I got this from the brochure

But there is BComm in Business Informatics. Not sure if it replaced that that BComm IT.

Either way though ... I want to do a Bsc route, not a BComm route.
 
Can someone give me a brief explanation of with the Difference is between Computer Science / Computer(Or software) Engineering and IT ... to me, they were all one and the same, but clearly not.

The guy below puts it better than I could. Basically one is more mathematical in nature, while the other is more practical. You will do programming in both.

I would personally always opt for the more mathematical route, as it helps develop a more analytical way of thinking. And in some instances, a solid mathematical background is essential in the development of some applications. If you're looking to get into things like AI, this will be essential.

“Computer Science” is the mixture and application of “Applied Mathematics”, “Electrical Engineering”, and “Complexity Theory/Algorithms” to understand and/or model information. In otherwords, the “field of computation”.

“Information Technology” is the mixture and application of “Programming”, “Hardware Administration”, “Software Administration”, “Networking”, “Network Security” and “Technical Support”. In otherwords, the “management of computers”.

Computer science is interpreted broadly so as to include algorithms, data structures, computational complexity theory, distributed computation, parallel computation, VLSI, machine learning, computational biology, computational geometry, information theory, cryptography, quantum computation, computational number theory and algebra, program semantics and verification, automata theory, and the study of randomness. Work in this field is often distinguished by its emphasis on mathematical technique and rigor.

Information Technology is the study, design, development, implementation, support or management of computer-based information systems, particularly software applications and computer hardware.” IT deals with the use of electronic computers and computer software to convert, store, protect, process, transmit, and securely retrieve information.

Computer science (academically, CS, CSC or compsci) encompasses a variety of topics that relates to computation, like abstract analysis of algorithms, formal grammars, and subjects such as programming languages, program design, software and computer hardware. A computer is one that computes, where com- (with, together) joins putare (Latin root, to reckon, to think, or section as in to compare pieces), so by definition, computer science (Latin: scientia, knowledge) is the accumulated knowledge through scientific methodology by computation or by the use of the computer. Computer scientists study what programs can and cannot do (see computability), how programs can efficiently perform specific tasks (see algorithms and complexity), how programs should store and retrieve specific kinds of information (see data structures and databases), how programs might behave intelligently (see artificial intelligence), and how programs and people should communicate with each other (see human-computer interaction and user interfaces). Most research in computer science has focused on von Neumann computers or Turing machines (computation models that perform one small, deterministic step at a time). These models resemble, at a basic level, most real computers in use today. Computer scientists also study other models of computation, which includes parallel machines and theoretical models such as probabilistic, oracle, and quantum computers.
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Computer science has roots in electrical engineering, mathematics, and linguistics. In the last third of the 20th century computer science emerged as a distinct discipline and developed its own methods and terminology. The first computer science department in the United States was founded at Purdue University in 1962, while the first college entirely devoted to computer science was founded at Northeastern University in 1980. Prior to this, CS was taught as part of mathematics or engineering departments, for instance at the University of Cambridge in England and at the Gdansk University of Technology in Poland, respectively. Cambridge claims to have the world’s oldest taught qualification in computing. Most universities today have specific departments devoted to computer science, while some conjoin it with engineering, with applied mathematics, or other disciplines.

information technology (IT) or information and communication technology (ICT) is the technology required for information processing. In particular the use of electronic computers and computer software to convert, store, protect, process, transmit, and retrieve information from anywhere, anytime.
Computer science, in every school I’ve ever seen, is programming. So its the study of algorithms, data structures, complexity theory, all the way down to learning what makes an operating system work. Its the science of computing, not the electrical engineering of the hardware, as some seem to think. That’s an entirely different topic.

Information technology is learning to use computers in business or in any practical application. While most schools require at least some basic programming courses for information technology, they don’t become programmers. It is simply so they understand, at a very basic level, what is involved behind the scenes.

Put simply, computer science is learning to program applications and the theory behind that. Information technology is learning to use technology in business.

Read more: http://www.techvyom.com/difference-between-computer-science-and.html#ixzz1z06bYLec
 
The guy below puts it better than I could. Basically one is more mathematical in nature, while the other is more practical. You will do programming in both.

I would personally always opt for the more mathematical route, as it helps develop a more analytical way of thinking. And in some instances, a solid mathematical background is essential in the development of some applications. If you're looking to get into things like AI, this will be essential.

Thanks Mike ... that little tidbit was very informative ... and in short ... Information Technology is not what I want to do, and it seems Computer Science is :P

Does UNISA offer Computer Science in their Bsc Computing?

Or is Computer Science something that should be studied full time.
I could do full time, but then will probably be the only CA in the history of the world living at home and not earning a salary :P ... at 27 by that point :P
 
Thanks Mike ... that little tidbit was very informative ... and in short ... Information Technology is not what I want to do, and it seems Computer Science is :P

Does UNISA offer Computer Science in their Bsc Computing?

Or is Computer Science something that should be studied full time.
I could do full time, but then will probably be the only CA in the history of the world living at home and not earning a salary :P ... at 27 by that point :P

I don't know about the BSc Computing but Unisa also has a general BSc where you pick your major, you can even have more than one. i.e. if you want a BSc in Computer Science you have to make sure that you do all of the compulsory Computer Science modules along with their co and pre-requisites. You could also have 2 majors if you want i.e. BSc in Computer Science and Applied Maths if you do all of the necessary modules.
 
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