Buying gold

Why buy SA gold from the US and send it back here when you can buy it here?

True - was just curious
 
Why so high, what's driving the gold price, Trumps tariff shenanigans?

Um, have you seen the state of the world lately.

War in Ukraine.
Israel bombing left, right and center.
China saying it will defend Venezuela from the US.

How long before something bigger kicks off, or more countries are drawn in.
 
Um, have you seen the state of the world lately.

War in Ukraine.
Israel bombing left, right and center.
China saying it will defend Venezuela from the US.

How long before something bigger kicks off, or more countries are drawn in.
That's all true, then there's the American debt situation and global moves away from dollar based transactions. In one form or another the US will be forced to devalue their currency,which by the way is also over valued, from a ppp perspective.

It's kind of an emerging perfect storm scenario that makes gold look increasingly attractive, I doubt that it's rise has peaked yet!!!!

Fwiw, Russia recently "exposed" American intentions of transferring their debt to stable coin and then de- valuing that ,therby getting rid of a large chunk of their debt for mahala....this is a long term plan though!

Although there's no proof of this, when it comes to the US, if it's possible and greatly beneficial to them....more often than not they will do it... regardless of anything.

Personally, I wouldn't invest a cent in crypto of any sort..
 
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Trying to figure out why a 100g bar of gold is more expensive than Kruger Rands?
Keen to buy some.


Any idea?
 
Trying to figure out why a 100g bar of gold is more expensive than Kruger Rands?
Keen to buy some.


Any idea?
1oz Krugerrand contains 31.103 grams of pure gold. Assuming the 100g bar is pure gold, then it is going to cost about 3.2 times as much. (100/31.103) Ignoring buyer premium, but the KR will command a higher premium than an unknown mint 100g bar
 
1oz Krugerrand contains 31.103 grams of pure gold. Assuming the 100g bar is pure gold, then it is going to cost about 3.2 times as much. (100/31.103) Ignoring buyer premium, but the KR will command a higher premium than an unknown mint 100g bar
I have done the math.

It comes down to that you are paying more per gram of gold when you buy a gold bar.
For the same thing basicly. At the end of the day, pure gold is pure gold. Fsck whatever is minted on it. Been there, got the t-shirt.
Fancy coins are BS.

The idea of having a 100gr bar of gold sounds cool.
But it looks like good old Kruger rands are a better bet.

I have 15 x 1oz coins already.
 
Why so high, what's driving the gold price, Trumps tariff shenanigans?

high? its still very much undervalued in fiat currency terms

after all, fiat currency always tends to its instrinsic value- zero
 
I'm pretty sure on a KR you are charged 7% above spot price as their markup to buy, and then another 7% markup on the spot price to sell...

ouch
 
Let's assume Grootvoet bought his Kruger Rand in June 2019 when it was last at around R20,000 per Kruger Rand (excluding the buyers 7% premium) today he smiles on R67,000 (excluding the selling 7% premium should he sell)

If he had just bought Microsoft shares in June 2019 he would be sitting on north of R110,000

Shares = double of what gold is, and Microsoft was just a company I chose as a safe no brainer bet.
 
Let's assume Grootvoet bought his Kruger Rand in June 2019 when it was last at around R20,000 per Kruger Rand (excluding the buyers 7% premium) today he smiles on R67,000 (excluding the selling 7% premium should he sell)

If he had just bought Microsoft shares in June 2019 he would be sitting on north of R110,000

Shares = double of what gold is, and Microsoft was just a company I chose as a safe no brainer bet.
@Wrath of Khan MD you absolutely right, I bough KRs to diversify but its not by far the best financial growth investment I've made.
 
Jirre, time to start thinking about selling this fat gold chain around my neck which I inherited from my late father.
 
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Tell me more about this. I know I'm going to inherit a KR when my Gran passes away, but I'd probably sell it straight away (depending on the gold price).
Well. Uhm. I found 15 x 1oz KRs in a couple of my late father's safes after he passed away in 2024.
Afaik, they should be included in his estate for estate duties to apply to them. These coins would have bumped up his estate value another bar.
So I just took them. How would they know he had them?

If he had R4k of cash in his wallet upon death, I am not gonna let the powers that be, who are winding down the estate, know that he had R4k in his wallet. That would just be stupid. The same with his and my late mother's watches and jewelry. Nobody knows about the roughly R3bar's worth of watches and jewelry I now own. It's something you tell your wife and kids about so that they know. Nobody else needs to know.

I also have a gold necklace with a 1oz KR that was so fashionable at one stage for the ladies.

If I were to sell them now through one of the reputable big players in the market, I am not sure what the process would be, and if SARS would be notified.
You then obviously might have to declare the sale of your coins as income and pay the taxes on it.
Or not, there are a lot of "gold dealers" willing to take them off your hands with couch money or something of the sort...

Anyway, what I am trying to say is that keeping physical gold in a safe place that no one knows about except your family may help in bringing down the value of your estate and save on estate duties. How SARS then affects the sale of that gold by your family, I am not 100% sure of.

IMO I would not buy it through a platform or custodial service like FNB or whoever keeps your coins for you, because that way your holdings will come to light.
 
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