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Meedoubtit.
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I doubt it, hope it does but I doubt it.
F1ve_Claw
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Was hoping Meego would come on the N8, but oh well. Hopefully with PR.2.0 on Symbain^3 Nokia may have a leg to stand on, because atm they are kind of falling :\
elvis_presley
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"Android sparking a revival for ARM-based devices" - what? Isn't the author aware that the marketshare that Android is gaining, is being taken away from ARM-based devices? iPhone is ARM-Based; Symbian phones are mainly ARM-based.
The article also ignores news that happened during/after MWC. Nokia still intends Meego to be it's next-generation OS, after Android and WM7 age (the only thing all mobile OSes have in common is that they don't dominate forever) and is working on it as that. Elop has been extremely clear in his message there.
The article also ignores news that happened during/after MWC. Nokia still intends Meego to be it's next-generation OS, after Android and WM7 age (the only thing all mobile OSes have in common is that they don't dominate forever) and is working on it as that. Elop has been extremely clear in his message there.
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The article was written from an Intel perspective and indeed the surge in Android has seen more ARM based phones being developed. Symbian is not taking anything away from Android and iPhone is ... well... iPhone, it's a single device unlike Android (/meego intentions).
elvis_presley
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There might be a general surge in high-end ARM, but it certainly can't be attributed to Android! It's the general migration toward higher end phones, that started years back with the first PocketPC devices, and got a shot in the arm with the iPhone. I'm not an iPhone fan, but it has to be credited with the popularization of smartphones.
When Win8 comes out, there will be another big surge in the graph, as quad-core and more ARM-based systems start to work there way into the world.
I don't take exception to the idea that ARM is enjoying increasing popularity, but Alastair and the rest of the linux/android fanboys can't try and lay claim to it.
Just no. If anyone popularised smartphones, it's Nokia. Many people just bought them not knowing they were smartphones. Long before Apple came crawling out of the woodwork with their ipod with some basic phone functions. And Android fanboys? I havent met any of those yet. Most Android users, myself included, would drop it like a hot potato when it's time to upgrade, if there's something better out there.
LazyLion
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meesa tink dat anytink dat sound laik Jar Jar Beenks issa noting gonna dowell! 
elvis_presley
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Maybe my generalization was misleading - I was referring to the touch-phone generation of smartphones, which is what the current war is about. Nobody captured this market imagination like Apple, even though it was done years before. I was an early adopter of the early Nokia touchscreen stuff, the early SE stuff, the early PocketPC stuff... Yeah they were there before everyone - but until the iPhone came, touchphones were for geeks and PDA users, not the general public.
There's a surprisingly large contingent of Android fanboys, largely the OSS crowd, who actually think that Google's semi-open OS with gigantic amounts of legacy legal crap tied to the java layer is a free and open system. I'm sure they'll grow up in time. I don't see Android winning this whole game in the long-term, it was just at the right place in the right time to capitalize on the exploding smartphone market.
No-one wins in the long term, it's always changing. It's funny that you say that Android was in the right place at the right time to capitalise on the growing market. It's true yes, but nowhere near as true as for Apple. They basically said, we've got to get in on this, when they launched their first iphone. Yes Android has it's issues, and Google is probably the next most evil company out there, after Apple, MS and Failbook, but just because people like something, doesn't mean they're fanboys. Fanboys are the type of people who will say things like: "I'll never go to any other phone" or "Everyone knows it's best", and ignore evidence of what's the best at the time.
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kingrob
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No. Intel's track record with a mobile phone OS is non-existing.
Think they were betting on Nokia to produce the goods and then just let their hardware work with it.
Think they were betting on Nokia to produce the goods and then just let their hardware work with it.
elvis_presley
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I see that all the time on comments on tech blogs... engadget, gizmodo, techcrunch, etc. They're out there, and they're generally good for a laugh. Everything has fanboys. I bet if you go to a knitting shop you'll see grannies being fanboyish about their knitting needles. It's human nature for some people to be like that.
Fanboyism is so stupid. It's far better being a fickle consumer and leap on the best new tech at the time!