Candida

[killadoob]

Did our ancestors have access to all the crap in food now days?

Not sure if there is scientific test for this but when you have all the symptoms it could that your body has to much candida.

The thing is if you don't think you have it then move on, but its a little hard to move on if you have alot of symptoms.

Our ancestors did not have all the junk food we have today so maybe comparing our ancestors with the generation of today is a bit silly.

lol DJ, another sign of alot of candida in your body is a bloated stomach, no matter how hard you gym it won't unbloat (yes i said unbloat)

Look Eye i only brought this up because everyone thinks candida is a sexually transmitted disease

 

[DJ...]

Did our ancestors have access to all the crap in food now days?

Not sure if there is scientific test for this but when you have all the symptoms it could that your body has to much candida.

The thing is if you don't think you have it then move on, but its a little hard to move on if you have alot of symptoms.

Our ancestors did not have all the junk food we have today so maybe comparing our ancestors with the generation of today is a bit silly.

lol DJ, another sign of alot of candida in your body is a bloated stomach, no matter how hard you gym it won't unbloat (yes i said unbloat)

Our ancestors couldnt diagnose it so it confused the kark out of them. hence why they threw some bones, sacrificed a kid or two and prayed for it not to happen whilst painting their faces and dancing in circles high on lord knows what drugs at the time. Its a far cry from heading down to the doc for a checkup...

 

[eye_suc]

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/conditionsatod/a/Candida.htm

please note killa, that the site you quoted is a site selling natural remedies (i.e. not medicine) for illnesses and crap. these are the same morons trying to sell you footpads that SUCK the TAR out of your LUNGS. through you FEET. yes, thats right folks, they defy logic, science and physics with one foul swoop.

when looking at that page, they are trying to sell me the following:

Alt Medicine Ads
Candida Diets, Candida Remedy, Candida Cures, Vaginal Yeast, Candida Treatment

yay. great stuff. i bet a bloody placebo would work better than their fake medicines.

From Wiki

Under normal circumstances, C. albicans lives in 80% of the human population with no harmful effects, although overgrowth results in candidiasis. Candidiasis is often observed in immunocompromised individuals such as HIV-positive patients. Candidiasis also may occur in the blood and in the genital tract. Candidiasis, also known as "thrush", is a common condition which is usually easily cured in people who are not immunocompromised.

so, 20% of people are dying/really sick? my head not understands. please explains

 

[eye_suc]

Look Eye i only brought this up because everyone thinks candida is a sexually transmitted disease

no, fair enough some where confuse there. i knew it wasn't though, but i can see where people might think so

and like i mention. i have most of those symptoms, but i am a normal functioning human being. i'm just a bit short, and hairy, and afrikaans, but don't hold that against me. so having all those symptoms means what exactly?

who made up these symptoms anyways? they are WAY too broad. almost like saying if your blood is warm (warmer than 30 degrees celcius) you might have a serious case of Brainwormalytis, caused by sticking worms in your ear when you were a kid.

from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candidiasis

Candidiasis, commonly called yeast infection or thrush, is a fungal infection (mycosis) of any of the Candida species, of which Candida albicans is the most common.[1][2]

Candidiasis encompasses infections that range from superficial, such as oral thrush and vaginitis, to systemic and potentially life-threatening diseases. Candida infections of the latter category are also referred to as candidemia and are usually confined to severely immunocompromised persons, such as cancer, transplant, and AIDS patients.

i don't know about you, but i don't have cancer, AIDS, transplants, or a vagina. do you?

 

[Fuma]

I just hate that Candida shyt. I suffered from it since 2000, and once in a while it comes back.

Just one herb!
Raw GARLIC, GARLIC, GARLIC
I used to cut 3-5 gloves of garlic and put them in warm (almost hot) water and drank it. also ate it raw though.

It worked wonders for me.

 

[killadoob]

* Frequent stomach pains and digestion problems/ Check
* Skin problems (skin infections, eczema, psoriasis, acne) /check
* Foggy brain / Trouble concentrating /check
* Constant tiredness and exhaustion/ check
* Anxiety /check
* Mood swings /big time
* Obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD)
* Anger outbursts/ for sure
* Irritability/ not doubt
* Headaches/ every morning
* Intense cravings for sugars, sweets, and breads/ all the time.
* Itchy skin
* Depression / very much so in the last 6 months
* Low libido / big time
* Erectile dysfunction / well lets just say its not what it used to be

now i expierence almost all those symptoms everyday, i don't know about buying kuk online but i went to dischem and they have probiotics and olive leaf extract specifically made for sorting out candida. Olive leaf kills it and the probiotics keep your gut balanced.

It amazes me how people think Candida is just a sexual disease. I read up on this for 2 hours yesterday, this is a major problem for alot of people.

Yea heiti i read fresh garlic is also good, but considering i deal with people everyday its not much of an option.

The biggest cause of candida is sugar, carbs and beer. Now i had quite a boep and stopped beer and its almost gone but i just cannot get it flat, i have no fat on stomach its just bloated, so im hoping its the candida causing me not to get my six pack
A beer boep is infact a Candida boep.

 

[DJ...]

i'm just a bit short, and hairy, and afrikaans, but don't hold that against me. so having all those symptoms means what exactly?

Short, hairy and Afrikaans are major symptoms - you should get checked up ASAP!

almost like saying if your blood is warm (warmer than 30 degrees celcius) you might have a serious case of Brainwormalytis, caused by sticking worms in your ear when you were a kid.

/heads off to the doc to get my annual Brainwormalytis checkup...

 

[killadoob]

I'm not sure what does having all the symptoms of cancer mean? I'm going with that you may have cancer.

 

[eye_suc]

now i expierence almost all those symptoms everyday

yes, so do i

i don't know about buying kuk online but i went to dischem and they have probiotics and olive leaf extract specifically made for sorting out candida.

yup, dischem also sells a variety of CRAP. some of the CRAP they sell prey on people's willingness to believe there is something wrong with them. so, Manto, our beloved witch-doctor, is more than likely correct with her AIDS cure

Olive leaf kills it and the probiotics keep your gut balanced.

proof please, i want to read up on this. and please don't quote the packaging of the product, since those footpads also claim to suck the tar out of your lungs.

the only references for candida probiotics i can find are people trying to sell me stuff to cure my candida albicans (which according to wiki is not an illness). see here: http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=probiotics+candida&btnG=Search&meta=

just see what these people say:

Probiotic what? The term "probiotic" literally means "for life," in contrast to "anti-biotic," which means "against life."

holy CRAP! i'm never going to my doctor again!

It amazes me how people think Candida is just a sexual disease. I read up on this for 2 hours yesterday, this is a major problem for alot of people.

i told you, i don't believe this to be a STD. i showed you the links to the wiki pages that describe exactly wtf this thing is.

A beer boep is infact a Candida boep.

reference?

just for reference, Candida albicans is not an illness, it is a diploid fungus (yeast) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_albicans). too much of this can cause Candidiasis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candidiasis) which is the illness.

jinne, i'm gonna write to Penn & Teller and tell them to do a show about this stuff

 

[eye_suc]

I'm not sure what does having all the symptoms of cancer mean? I'm going with that you may have cancer.

LOL! no man read that part again hehehe. had a good chuckle now. on wikipedia it says that "Candida infections of the latter category are also referred to as candidemia and are usually confined to severely immunocompromised persons, such as cancer, transplant, and AIDS patients".

so, what i am assuming wiki is saying, is that candida infections aren't common unless you have cancer, transplants or aids, but the keyword here being usually, since there are always exceptions to the rule

please note mr killa, i'm not attacking, i'm learning with you here, since i haven't heard about candisisaisiasis (bahh, not gonna copy paste again) before. but the only thing that keeps popping up is the people trying to sell me fake medicine to cure something which wiki reckons is not an illness

 

[killadoob]

http://www.1cure4cancer.com/products/olive_leaf.html
http://www.candida-albicans-cure.com/olive-leaf-extract.html

Yea but just because you have a weak immune system does not mean you have a chronic illness, from what i understand about candida is this.

We all have it but we have good bacteria that fights it, when this good bacteria is low and you have a bad immune system, the candida over runs your system because there is nothing fighting it.

What probiotics do is put back the good bacteria thats fights candida and boosts your immune system helping even the balance out. Olive leaf extract is said to kill bacteria in our bodies, whether this is true remains to be seen but i don't see how 50 sites on google can be wrong.

http://www.candidaelimination.com/CandidaEliminationKit.html

Now i could post the 75 websites i read and numeroues forums where people said olive leaf helped them get rid of the problem but i don't much feel like doing it

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/conditionsatod/a/Candida.htm this one explains it very well indeed

Here is a forum one

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

I just found to many sites for this whole candida thing not to be true, 95% of the sites i visited did not try and sell me anything.

 

[Ozymandias]

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/conditionsatod/a/Candida.htm

Candida overgrowth in the intestines is thought to, in some cases, penetrate the intestinal wall, causing the yeast and other unwanted particles from being absorbed into the body. This is thought to activate the immune system, resulting in fatigue, headache, mood swings, poor memory and concentration, cravings for sweets, and has been linked to conditions such as fibromyalgia.

This Candida yeast description sounds very similar to a description explained to me by a friend that suffers from Psoriasis. He believes that the predominance of yeast in the gut, leads to it leaking through the gut wall. This results in an immune response. He cut out all cereals, bread and beer and is convinced that this diet has got his Psoriasis under control.

 

[eye_suc]

various links, excluding forum link

you know what every single one of those references have in common? they are trying to sell me stuff. who are we supposed to believe? the people trying to sell me this stuff, or wikipedia? also, where did you first hear about this illness?

What probiotics do is put back the good bacteria thats fights candida and boosts your immune system helping even the balance out. Olive leaf extract is said to kill bacteria in our bodies, whether this is true remains to be seen but i don't see how 50 sites on google can be wrong.

well, theres also a few hundred, if not a thousand or more, very convincing sites on google that cover Scientology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probiotics

In a double-blind, placebo-controlled therapeutic study on the effects of a probiotic cocktail on pancreatitis at University Medical Center Utrecht (UMC), 24 out of 296 patients died between 2004 and 2007, with more deaths among those receiving the probiotic cocktail directly in the intestine. According to the spokesman of UMC, it is likely that some of these deaths would not have occurred without the probiotics[51], although other therapeutic trials conducted on probiotics were more positively conclusive

woah, that sounds scary. however, it does mention a lot of words like "potentially", "possible", "claims" etc. interesting read actually. it also mentions the gut thing you talk about. no conclusive proof though

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/conditionsatod/a/Candida.htm this one explains it very well indeed

yep, and it also does a very good job of trying to sell cures for it

Here is a forum one

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

ok, this one is interesting. but in all fairness, it is people talking about it, not a reputable source of information
EDIT: oops, missed this. "This program was designed by my naturopath". i think that is the same kind of thing as a Reflexologist.

I just found to many sites for this whole candida thing not to be true, 95% of the sites i visited did not try and sell me anything.

i found the exact opposite though. although, i stopped after the first 10 tried to sell me stuff

nobody can give me any kind of proof about this. i think i will have to ask my doctor, doctor friend or Penn & Teller about it. interesting stuff indeed.

as a side note, perhaps THIS stuff could cure your "Candida". and PLEASE go look at this link, look at all the pictures, look at all the sales pitches and comment on this.
http://www.detoxifyingfootpads.com/

 

[killadoob]

Well i read about it when i started researching what causes a beer boep, now what i found obviously is that beer is a major cause of a beer boep because it sends the yeast in your through the roof, now people with low immune system's develop beer boep while other with stronger immune systems don't see the effects of drinking beer.

this is where i learned a beer boep is in actual fact a candida boep, so this lead to do some more investigating and i found that people with lower immune systems are more likely to have a candida problem than those with a strong one.

What lead me to believe there must some truth in this candida thing is i look at some of the people i know who drink tons of beer are skinny, yet i started drinking beer and got a beer boep, this is why i started investigating why some people get and some people don't. The reason is because the more candida builds up in your body the more your belly will swell.

yes while these sites do try and sell you stuff, its not in your face they are mostly recommending items.

Now eye go find me tons of websites that claim that foot stuff works and i might believe it but i won't believe one dodgy website. You cannot deny there is alot of info on candida out there.

 

[eye_suc]

yes while these sites do try and sell you stuff, its not in your face they are mostly recommending items.

well, it is very obvious what they are trying to do though affiliate programs and such

Now eye go find me tons of websites that claim that foot stuff works and i might believe it but i won't believe one dodgy website. You cannot deny there is alot of info on candida out there.

http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=detoxifying+foot+pads&btnG=Google+Search&meta= hundreds and thousands of hits

sorry doob, i should have explained myself. the point i was trying to make with these footpads is that you can sell ANY crap to ANYBODY if you are convincing enough. these detox foot pads are a bunch of boloney. it is a gimmick, a science project that somebody thought they would sell to people to "heal" themselves.

i am not disputing that eating healthy wont be good for you (duh), but i have not seen ANY scientific merit in any of these buggers trying to sell me their cures.

i am truly honest when i ask you to please enlighten me, since my investigations make this look like some kind of Verimark-type bullcrap.

 

[killadoob]

I'm not sure how to convince you otherwise, there will obviously be websites who exploit certain stuff, maybe this is all rubbish but i don't think it is purely based on beer boep research.

I believe this is true but make no mistake i won't order anything online, i will be speaking to my doctor tomorrow morning as he never called me yesterday and is in theater today.

Maybe you are right, maybe this is just a scam but unless we talk to a doctor we will never know. Hopefully i can tell you tomorrow if it is fake or not.

Explain to me why 2 people on this forum have had candida? Also caught by the same trap, Alan and heiti did a doctor diagnose the problem?

 

[eye_suc]

Maybe you are right, maybe this is just a scam but unless we talk to a doctor we will never know. Hopefully i can tell you tomorrow if it is fake or not.

yeah, cool that would be super, since you got me all excited about this now hehehe

Explain to me why 2 people on this forum have had candida?

i have no idea, never heard of this in any case. it could be diagnosed even though they don't have it, since (and you would agree i think) the symptoms are so broad.

keep us updated man! :rock:
EDIT: ok, no :rock: emote then... dang

 

[DJ...]

Sheezuz you two are still on about this? I have never seen two people go on about their STDs like this before...

/runs

 

[killadoob]

Just spoke to my Doctor.

He says Candida can build up in two case's, one if you have a low immune system, two if you have been on antibiotics.

He says probiotics are very good for candida but he has never heard of using olive leaf extract as this is a homeopath med and not something he would ever prescribe.

He has given me a prescription for an anti fungus medicine that is scientifically proven. He did however say that candida can be over-stated but said it is a problem for a few people he has seen. He also said that there is no way to test for this kind of problem.

So i'm off to get my drugs

 

[killadoob]

DJK i'm sure i saw you on one of those beastiality porno's

I can understand why you chose fish as opposed to a horse.