Car Safety: Carte Blanche

[XPD]

So I watched the car safety insert last night and was quite surprised. I know that lots of our cars come with less safety spec than euro e.g. Auto Braking, more than 2 airbags, ESP, tyre pressure sensors etc, which off course has an impact on the safety rating, but was shocked on the body integrity especially the i20 which is sold in Europe and here yet the body of the SA model fared worse. Is the steel used in SA models of lower strength? Also the hardbody was quite an eye opener and Nissan SA’s response was a joke. And isn’t the SA Yaris different totally to the Euro models, I’m sure SA got the 3rd world model from Brazil.

 

[namzsteve]

I saw this too, scary schit!

 

[FiestaST]

Link to insert perhaps?

Don't have the full bouquet.

 

[GlassMirror]

So I watched the car safety insert last night and was quite surprised. I know that lots of our cars come with less safety spec than euro e.g. Auto Braking, more than 2 airbags, ESP, tyre pressure sensors etc, which off course has an impact on the safety rating, but was shocked on the body integrity especially the i20 which is sold in Europe and here yet the body of the SA model fared worse. Is the steel used in SA models of lower strength? Also the hardbody was quite an eye opener and Nissan SA’s response was a joke. And isn’t the SA Yaris different totally to the Euro models, I’m sure SA got the 3rd world model from Brazil.

We got the Asian spec Yaris and the Euro spec one got discontinued

 

[geezer]

Link to insert perhaps?

Don't have the full bouquet.

https://m-net.dstv.com/show/carte-blanche/videos/how-safe-is-your-car-carte-blanche/videos

 

[Tsepz_GP]

Was a very interesting watch I must say, I was completely shocked about the new Toyota Yaris and current Hyundai i20, it's clear we are simply not getting the Euro stuff down here.

It makes me wonder what about other car makes.
Hope they test more of these small cars like:
- Kia Rio
- Renault Clio 4
- Renault Captur
- Mazda 2
- Polo TSI
- Polo Vivo

Etc etc.... So many young people and young families get these cars believing all the safety crap over some of the cheaper lesser known makes only to find that even that i20 isn't much safer.

 

[Sumen]

Was a very interesting watch I must say, I was completely shocked about the new Toyota Yaris and current Hyundai i20, it's clear we are simply not getting the Euro stuff down here.

It makes me wonder what about other car makes.
Hope they test more of these small cars like:
- Kia Rio
- Renault Clio 4
- Renault Captur
- Mazda 2
- Polo TSI
- Polo Vivo

Etc etc.... So many young people and young families get these cars believing all the safety crap over some of the cheaper lesser known makes only to find that even that i20 isn't much safer.

The Polo and Clio should achieve at least 4 stars( because we don't have auto braking etc.), The Captur I want to say will also get 4 stars but then there are 2 versions of it, not sure which one we get.

The rest will probably get 3 stars, including the Vivo. Maybe the top spec Mazda 2 might get 5 stars.

 

[smkungfu]

The Hardbody(Softbody is what they like to call them now) was scary schyt. To be honest after watching the CB episode, I regret buying the Nissan Almera. Car feels very crappy all of the sudden.

 

[joshuatree]

http://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/328525/aa-claims-sa-car-makers-put-price-above-safety

AA claims SA car makers put price above safety

The Automobile Association's (AA) second annual Entry-Level Car Safety Report revealed some shocking results in terms of safety standards of these vehicles.

Automobile Association spokesperson , Layton Beard says the cost of car crashes in SA is estimated at R160 billion annually.

He says in South Africa it seems safety factors are overlooked and price is the main focus. This is why some of SA's most popular cars are considered too unsafe to be sold elsewhere in the world, he adds.

The AA tested KIA Picanto, Hyundai i20, Toyota Yaris and Nissan NP300.

Read: Buying on a budget? Safety features aren't up to scratch on cheap cars, says AA

Hudyai i20 got a three-star rating and the same rating for child occupancy, but in Europe this car has a four-star rating.

— Layton Beard, Spokesperson at Automobile Association

The Toyota Yaris has got a three-star rating here but a higher rating in other markets. In other markets, it has 7 airbags and in South Africa only has two.

— Layton Beard, Spokesperson at Automobile Association

The Nissan NP300, I think it was a shock for a lot of people. When you look at the frame of that vehicle after the crash it was completely crumpled and there is a very high likelihood that the driver and the front passenger will not make it.

— Layton Beard, Spokesperson at Automobile Association

Obviously, in South Africa, there is a lot to be done in terms of safety on vehicles.

— Layton Beard, Spokesperson at Automobile Association

Our concern as the AA is that these standards are too low and they have to be improved.

— Layton Beard, Spokesperson at Automobile Association

To hear the rest of the conversation, listen below:

 

[Neuk_]

It is rather simple, we have lower standards than the rest of the world, so we get what we want, essentially.

 

[Pitbull]

Was funny when the reality hit:

We pay more for the shyte we're getting than the quality they get in Europe.

Let that sink in for a second...

Same vehicle, different specs and obviously different material too. Yet we pay more than they pay in Europe for a superior quality vehicle.

 

[justplain]

I sense a lot of backlash from the manufactures locally.....or big price bumps for the added safety tech.
Really doesnt paint a good light on them.
I wonder about premium brands, Audi, BMW, Merc etc.... are their models in line with EU derivatives ?

 

[Pitbull]

or big price bumps for the added safety tech.

Does not compute.

In Europe the superior car is being sold for less...

 

[Neuk_]

Was funny when the reality hit:

We pay more for the shyte we're getting than the quality they get in Europe.

Let that sink in for a second...

Same vehicle, different specs and obviously different material too. Yet we pay more than they pay in Europe for a superior quality vehicle.

Yep, we get ripped locally for new cars.

 

[Neuk_]

Does not compute.

In Europe the superior car is being sold for less...

Cost of getting cars here, local import duties, lack of tax credits for companies not manufacturing here, blatant capitalism, etc. all play a part in us getting ripped for new cars.

 

[Pitbull]

Cost of getting cars here, local import duties, lack of tax credits for companies not manufacturing here, blatant capitalism, etc. all play a part in us getting ripped for new cars.

I get that.

They specifically made a point of it in that insert. We pay about 1/3 more for the subpar vehicles compared to the Superior vehicle in Europe.

 

[justplain]

I know. We also know that locally represented manufactures are not going to do us any favours.
They comply with the poor regulations. Those need to be brought in line with European standards and that customers should not be penalized in terms of pricing for ensure that the vehicle does match those requirements.

Also that "hardbody" crash is terrifying. I'd really like to see all bakkies tested as many seem to think they offer some safety benefits due to their size and added height off the road etc.

Does not compute.

In Europe the superior car is being sold for less...

 

[Currantly]

I get that.

They specifically made a point of it in that insert. We pay about 1/3 more for the subpar vehicles compared to the Superior vehicle in Europe.

Thanks to the deals between the unions & government.

 

[blowdart18]

I wonder about premium brands, Audi, BMW, Merc etc.... are their models in line with EU derivatives ?

All Audi vehicles are imported as is from the factory, the only country specification that changes is the engine components. We are classified as a "hot" country so you have higher rated radiator fans, slightly different cooling systems, and sometimes different engines compared to that of our EU counter-parts.