'Cash first for city services'

joelus said:
No, you'll get a party that cares more about the health and wealth of corporates and business than about the health and wealth of people. Which is what prepayment is all about.
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How is prepayment about corporate greed?

the current problem of the municipalities is that they are incurring expenses for services being delivered to their areas (such as Eskom and waterboards etc). People use these services and and the municipalities need to recuperate the expenses that they pay out for these services to the service providers. People are not paying for the services which is leaving the municipality in debt over these costs which is undermining the whole service delivery and the problems that come with it. Prepaying is just a way for the municipalities are getting the money that they require to pay over to the service companies in order to maintain decent service to their residents.

If you want to argue the fact that these services should be free by the government that is a totally different issue but while the municipalities are having to pay for these services then so should the residents.
 
ISP cash cow said:
How is prepayment about corporate greed?

the current problem of the municipalities is that they are incurring expenses for services being delivered to their areas (such as Eskom and waterboards etc). People use these services and and the municipalities need to recuperate the expenses that they pay out for these services to the service providers. People are not paying for the services which is leaving the municipality in debt over these costs which is undermining the whole service delivery and the problems that come with it. Prepaying is just a way for the municipalities are getting the money that they require to pay over to the service companies in order to maintain decent service to their residents.

If you want to argue the fact that these services should be free by the government that is a totally different issue but while the municipalities are having to pay for these services then so should the residents.
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Post payment favours the consumer - if I don't get the service I requested I can withhold payment until I do or until a court rules that I am wrong. In other words, the rights of the consumer come before the rights of the company and the onus is on the company to ensure they provide the service I'm paying for. If I try to screw the company by not paying then it's the company that has to do the work to ensure they get paid.

Prepayment favours the company - if I don't get the service I already paid for I'm screwed. As an individual the cost and process I need to go through to get my money back or service I requested makes it almost impossible to challenge in court, the company can hide behind their call centre and there is pretty much nothing I can do about it
 
joelus said:
Post payment favours the consumer - if I don't get the service I requested I can withhold payment until I do or until a court rules that I am wrong. In other words, the rights of the consumer come before the rights of the company and the onus is on the company to ensure they provide the service I'm paying for. If I try to screw the company by not paying then it's the company that has to do the work to ensure they get paid.

Prepayment favours the company - if I don't get the service I already paid for I'm screwed. As an individual the cost and process I need to go through to get my money back or service I requested makes it almost impossible to challenge in court, the company can hide behind their call centre and there is pretty much nothing I can do about it
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Ok I understand the point you are making and I agree that I also do prefer to post pay my accounts once services are delivered but unfortunately with the current debt situation that the municipalities find themselves in and the amount of debt that they have had to already write off in the past, it just does not seem to be working out for them and I would prefer to prepay for a service than to have the chances that the services will not be delivered due to other people not paying for services that they should be.

The amount of debt that the municipalities are sitting with shows that people are not willing to post pay for services even when they are receiving the service.

P.S I know there is probably some accounts which are erroneous, involved in that bad debt figure due to bad administration but I would say that the bulk of bad debts is from outstanding accounts for people not willing to pay.
 
R341.6-million for rent.
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Will each house in informal settlements also get pre paid meter or how will they control (bill) the water use?
 
I'll gladly prepay my water/electricity ... as long as I can do it without having a prepaid meter in my house.
 
In Tshwane There is a deposit for electricity and water and rates and services are paid in advance. So what's new?
 
Albereth said:
I am pretty sure that if I drove over someone and they got back up that I wouldn't hang around to mess with them any further.
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Over the DA supporter that suggested the prepaid meters or the ANC member that will think about it?

:D
 
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