Centurion D5 evo gate stall

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I'm having a problem i can't fix with my centurion D5 evo. Started with the gate opening till full then closes about 30cm . I clean the rail did reconfiguration but then worked a few times. Then the gate would open and close immediately then you get gate stalled as message. Did the configuration again works a few times then gets gate stalled again. I opened the control board cleaned it redid the solder joints of the doss. The doss sensor and wheel are both clean. Tighten the wires to the board but still the fault is intermittent
 
Check your battery and the connectors to it.

I had a similar problem recently and it's because the battery connection was dodgy with corrosion.
 
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Thanks. No corrosion at battery terminals. Voltage seems fine above 12. But it's two years old from new centurion supplied battery.
There was slight corrosion at the doss terminal inside the board.
 
I have the same gate motor and it's 99% of the time the battery or something blocking the wheels or the wheels themselves.

I've just put in a 12v lithium Life PO4 battery in and works like a charm.
 
Thanks.

I think it might be cause of some slight corrosion on the board. I cleaned the board a second time with some iso propyl alcohol and scraped in between the resistors. I could see some minimal corrosion in between the resistors. I did not inspect the board under a microscope. Next time if this occurs I will inspect.

I was wondering if I can replace the conformal coating of the board (as I cleaned it off) with the UV activated glue.

My first D5 motor lasted 15 years. This one I can find 2022 the date of manufacture and already causing issues.
As to why this is my first post It's because I have so far been able to solve the issues with this motor. It's the first time I got stuck and surfing the net brought me on this forum
 
fuzz1 said:
Hi
I'm having a problem i can't fix with my centurion D5 evo. Started with the gate opening till full then closes about 30cm . I clean the rail did reconfiguration but then worked a few times. Then the gate would open and close immediately then you get gate stalled as message. Did the configuration again works a few times then gets gate stalled again. I opened the control board cleaned it redid the solder joints of the doss. The doss sensor and wheel are both clean. Tighten the wires to the board but still the fault is intermittent
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Oddly enough we have the same problem. Motor works fine, then randomly stalls and I have to reset the limits. New LifePo battery installed and all. I'll do like you did and check for corrosion.
 
0) take out the board and ultrasonic clean at 50W for 20 minutes
1) replace battery wires and terminals with some thicker gauge wire you make and crimp yourself (the standard ones are skinny)
2) use a lithium ferrous battery
3) add a 25V 2200 micro farad electrolytic capacitor to the battery terminals
4) spray the board with any conformal coating in a can (locally they call them plastic spray)

Result: haven't had any issues in 4 years, gate opens and closes ~4 times an hour every day.
 
I forgot to mention that there was presence of mice in the motor. The first motor I installed it myself so I blocked the passage with silicon. This was one was installed by the supplier of the motor and they did not care to put silicon in the motor. In the 15 years of the first motor I changed batteries maybe 4 times. The batteries lasted 4-5 years without issues. The best battery I used was a Panasonic one 7.5 AH. Lasted more than 5 years.

What will the electrolytic capacitor do? Suppress noise? Or give it a boost?
 
fuzz1 said:
I forgot to mention that there was presence of mice in the motor. The first motor I installed it myself so I blocked the passage with silicon. This was one was installed by the supplier of the motor and they did not care to put silicon in the motor. In the 15 years of the first motor I changed batteries maybe 4 times. The batteries lasted 4-5 years without issues. The best battery I used was a Panasonic one 7.5 AH. Lasted more than 5 years.

What will the electrolytic capacitor do? Suppress noise? Or give it a boost?
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prolongs life of battery substantially, and probably protects the main board a little too

The instant current pull as the stator energies is like 200 amps. It's much kinder to to battery to pull that from the cap instead. It also prevents an instant voltage drop for the power supply on the main board
 
A little tip that might be helpful specially for those not living in South Africa like me. The power supply for the centurion can be easily replaced by a much cheaper one. Installed one some 4 years back for my brother and still working fine. Just need to adjust the voltage to match with the original power supply.
 
fuzz1 said:
A little tip that might be helpful specially for those not living in South Africa like me. The power supply for the centurion can be easily replaced by a much cheaper one. Installed one some 4 years back for my brother and still working fine. Just need to adjust the voltage to match with the original power supply.
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Can you give us more detail on the power supply you are talking about, please?
 
agentrfr said:
0) take out the board and ultrasonic clean at 50W for 20 minutes
1) replace battery wires and terminals with some thicker gauge wire you make and crimp yourself (the standard ones are skinny)
2) use a lithium ferrous battery
3) add a 25V 2200 micro farad electrolytic capacitor to the battery terminals
4) spray the board with any conformal coating in a can (locally they call them plastic spray)

Result: haven't had any issues in 4 years, gate opens and closes ~4 times an hour every day.
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Do you work for sixty60............................

Why this:-add a 25V 2200 micro farad electrolytic capacitor to the battery terminals
 
Stokstert said:
Can you give us more detail on the power supply you are talking about, please?
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Yeah no problem. It's just a 12 volt from memory i think 2 amp power supply. You just need to use a voltmeter and adjust the potentiometer of the power supply to the exact required value. The amperage voltage will both be printed on the centurion power supply
 
From a theoretical level the capacitor would act as a reservoir and would give instant power to compensate for the high current demand. However what would be the effect on the circuit i don't know.
 
Yes 95% of problems with Centurion and other motors are the battery. Just replace it and be sure. If you do not have solar or other backup, those batteries does not last long with load shedding.
Also put gate on manual and slide it up and down with your hands feel if its smooth and easy. Your wheels might be on its way out. Also not very difficult or expensive to replace.
 
My gate is works, it is just swaying a little bit, therefore not hitting the centre of the catch but the outside wing.

How do I check the wheels? Or what should I check? Also a Centurion.
 
rh1 said:
My gate is works, it is just swaying a little bit, therefore not hitting the centre of the catch but the outside wing.

How do I check the wheels? Or what should I check? Also a Centurion.
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To check the wheels... you disengage the motor from the gate. If it's old D5 just turn the knob. New smart D5 move the red latch
Then move the gate with your hand right and left to get a feel of the wheels
 
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Here is the solution from centurion.

Increase the crawl distance and the ramp down.

Haven't faced any issues since. It's probably due to aging mechanical parts
 
Was gonna say check the battery and connections. Most of the time that is where the issues are.
I have a Centurion G-Speak ultra intercom at my gate. When you press the button the fscking thing keeps redialing my phone like 15 times even after I answered the call and opened the gate. As if the button is stuck.

Spoke to Centurion on their website support chat. They are pretty helpful on there. They connected to my unit remotely and checked all is good so must be a loose wire or dry joint or something like that. Still have to go and do an inspection.
 
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