change of owneship...how does it work

furnic

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So I sold my daughters motorbike about 8 months ago and yesterday she goes to register a car and it turns out the person who purchased the bike didn't change the ownership into his name and now they won't give her the disk for her car because there is the outstanding license fees on the bike - so now what?
 

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Those damded licence places are the pits, they should have told her what to do when she was there. Useless a*holes.

AFAIK she has to fill in a some sale of vehicle document.

I wish the DA or some other political party with clout would look into the crap service levels in these places.
 

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EDIT: I completely misread the OP. Skim-reading not working on Mondays, apparently...
 
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Pay the fees and report the bike stolen with the police... that will teach him *mwuhahahahaha!*
 

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In short - she's screwed. How did she not check this when she bought the bike? Technically whoever he bought the bike from could legally claim back his property from her if he found out (and is an arsehole)...

Dude, you seem to have it the wrong way around or something... been drinking? :p
 

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In short - she's screwed. How did she not check this when she bought the bike? Technically whoever he bought the bike from could legally claim back his property from her if he found out (and is an arsehole)...

EDIT: hang on - I think I need to re-read the OP...

indeed you do!

I was also thinking reporting the bike as stolen, but then isn't it false something or other...surely there must be something simple as some form somewhere...
 

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AFAIK the buyer needs to fill in a change of ownership/registration form and will need a certified copy of the sellers ID if the seller isn't present to sign the document. I think that's how I did it a few years ago when I bought my old car.
 

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Reporting it stolen will get you into crap when the truth comes out, if you do want to be nasty about it have the bike scrapped.
 

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Go to the police, do an affidavit explaining you sold it and as much info as you have about the buyer, date of sale, etc.

Take this to the traffic dept and all should be sorted
 

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I got a form (can't remember the exact name) from the traffic department before I sold my bike. When I gave the bike to the new owner I filled out the new owners details on the form. I then handed it in to the traffic department after the sale.
 

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You need to fill in the yellow form, Change Of Ownership form. When selling a vehicle always fill in two copies, one for the buyer and one the seller. Then once the car/bike is sold, go to to the traffic dept and hand it in, you as the seller wont have to pay anything, they'll print out a receipt stating that they received the document. Try doing it ASAP after selling the vehicle incase the buyer gets a speeding fine or meets up in an accident, so you are not liable.

You can then use the receipt if any problems such as the above arise.
 

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Reporting it stolen will get you into crap when the truth comes out, if you do want to be nasty about it have the bike scrapped.

Hahaha, I was pondering my earlier advice while driving home and reached the same conlcusion, I agree scraping it is even better/eviler...
 

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The yellow form is the one the SELLER should fill in and hand in to the traffic department.

This is the change of ownership form, informing them that you are no longer liable for the vehicle.
Once handed in the buyer has 21 days to get the vehicle registered on his name. After that there are penalties and whatnot.

Talk to the traffic department and ask them what you should do, what I would have done:
a) Get a yellow form, if you can still get hold of the buyer get him to sign his part on the form and hand it in ASAP.
b) Go to the police and get an affidavit stating that you sold the vehicle but neglected to fill in the form. You will most probably need the particulars of the buyer.
c) Scrape the vehicle. Once scraped the other party is going to have a jolly good time trying to get it roadworthy again.
 

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Talk to the traffic department and ask them what you should do, what I would have done:
a) Get a yellow form, if you can still get hold of the buyer get him to sign his part on the form and hand it in ASAP.
b) Go to the police and get an affidavit stating that you sold the vehicle but neglected to fill in the form. You will most probably need the particulars of the buyer.
c) Scrape the vehicle. Once scraped the other party is going to have a jolly good time trying to get it roadworthy again.

Indeed this is the correct advice.
Was at the licence dept today and I can't do the yellow form, it must be the buyer.
according to them I must go to the police and do the affidavit thingy and then they will scrap the bike.
I got hold of the buyer today and told him I want him to register the bike by the end of the week. I didn't tell him I was going to scrap it, that will be his problem - he has had 9 months to sort this out - plus I will have to pay the outstanding licence fee, so basically stuff him then...or I could be nice and say look dude, sort this out or I have to scrap the bike...
 

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Reporting it stolen will get you into crap when the truth comes out, if you do want to be nasty about it have the bike scrapped.

Didn't want to be nasty, so I called the dude, spoke to him, gave him a month to do it + the 10 months time he had anyhow since he bought the bike and went today and he hadn't bothered to do anything so had the bike scrapped.

I guess he doesn't really care that he is driving an unlicenced bike, but that is his problem now.

Scrapping requires you to supply the address where the vehicle can be inspected.

no, it doesn't, you just need an affidavit from the police where you state you sold the vehicle and that the new buyer hasn't bothered to change ownership.
 
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