Cheap Reliable Car

Ancalagon

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Hey guys,

So recently I've been reading the Mr Money Moustache blog (dangerous I know) and I'm thinking there are some changes I need to make the way I spend my money - especially my car.

I love my car, but it is difficult to justify spending so much money per month on a car. I have a Peugeot 208 HDI Active, which I bought last year brand new. I got a discount on it, but the only deposit I made on the car was the R15k I got for my trade in. I think I bought it somewhere around August.

The repayments are costing me R4500 per month, and vehicle insurance is about R950 if I remember correct. So, R5450 on a vehicle.

The capital balance outstanding is R180k. Pretty sure that if I were to trade it in now, I would get something like R150k. So, that would be R30k I would need to borrow in order to trade my car in (lol, I know!)

What I would buy then would be something in the region of R70k. A small car, such as a Hyundai Getz, with a 1.4l engine. So I would owe R100k in finance as opposed to R180k. Assuming that amount is financed at my current interest rate of 10.4 with a 48 month loan term, it would cost me R2500 per month. However, my insurance costs would probaby decrease by R500 (conservatively). So, I would pay R2950 per month instead of R5450.

That R2500 per month I could put into repaying the vehicle loan faster, and then have it paid for fully in 1.82 years - or close to the end of 2016. I could put even more into it, depending on other financial commitments (paying for studies, etc).

However, that isn't taking into account the increased servicing costs of the second hand car, which would not have a service plan. Over the lifetime of the vehicle, that would increase the costs slightly. Nonetheless, it would still be quite a big saving of cash.

So, I have a few questions.

The first is, is it worth it? I would be taking a risk in that it can be difficult to find a reliable second hand car. I could end up with someone else's problems. That could end up costing me more money, or it could leave me stranded on the side of the road. However, I think the risk is lower with a small car such as a Hyundai Getz or a Toyota Yaris.

The second is, how would one go about making sure that a second hand car is reliable? I mean, I don't know enough about cars to give one a proper inspection. I know the AA does inspections - are those worth anything?
 
Not worth it until you can break even on finance.... Even then, I don't think it will be worth it as you never get what the car is actually worth and what you'll get for the same money will be worse
 
Getz yes, Yaris no. Yaris is one of those expensive to maintain cars. You are better off with a 2nd hand beemer, Corolla or a new Corolla Quest.
 
I would advise on getting a used Honda Jazz or Ford Focus.

Look around for a better deal on your current vehicle trade in, maybe sell it privately.
 
AA inspections are not worth the paper they're printed on. My ex-boss had a vehicle (Chrysler Voyager) "inspected" by the AA prior to purchasing. They gave it the thumbs up. Within a couple of weeks my ex-boss had to replace the shock absorbers. After querying this with the AA, they maintained that their "inspection" was good, as they only do (in their own words) "a visual inspection". So basically it seems they're just checking that the shock absorbers ... what? exist??

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 
Not worth it until you can break even on finance.... Even then, I don't think it will be worth it as you never get what the car is actually worth and what you'll get for the same money will be worse

Well yes, you always lose on cars. The point is, should I cut my losses now?

Losing 25% of R200k is a lot more than losing 25% of R60k.

Getz yes, Yaris no. Yaris is one of those expensive to maintain cars. You are better off with a 2nd hand beemer, Corolla or a new Corolla Quest.

2nd hand beemers, or new Corolla Quest won't save me any money at all.
 
How is your repayment R4500 pm? Did you perhaps get financed with no baloon?

I drive an i20 CRDI which I believe was sold for about the same price as the 208.
With R25k deposit, a bit of a discount 35% baloon and 7.5% interest, my installment is R2880pm and insurance even though I live in a high risk area and am only 25 years old is R645pm.
Fuel costs me +-R1600pm (Give me 2500km. 3 tanks)
Installment includes service and maintenance plan for 5 years\75000km
Total R5125

Maybe a bit off topic but I've seen many negative comments about the i20 (especially the previous model that I have)
Still think I made the best decision to fir my budget perfectly and still get all the bells and whistles I need. Just lacking speed :P
 
No balloon - a balloon means you end up paying more in interest. Took a 5 year loan with no residual/balloon.

You know that at the end of your contract, you will still owe 35% right?
 
No balloon - a balloon means you end up paying more in interest. Took a 5 year loan with no residual/balloon.

You know that at the end of your contract, you will still owe 35% right?

I do :)

What I am doing is paying R500 extra on my installment. my capital balance already matches what I have seen my car with the same milage selling for second hand.

My plan is to make sure i stick to the guidelines for getting my guaranteed 60% buyback after 3 years and then trade in.
According to my calculations, I will then still get a decent amount of cash back for the next vehicle even after the baloon payment.
 
I would personally keep the car a bit longer and pay it off a bit. The Peugeot 208 not that expansive to maintain in its segment. Insurance is a bit high though. I pay about R700 something for Civic. I would recommend Honda Jazz for it's worldwide recognized reliable reputation according to several reports or a Mazda2 for most reliable car in SA its segment according SA news reports. However they are not that cheap to maintain compare to its rivals. Hyundai Getz, Ford Fiesta, Hyundai i20 are much cheaper to maintain.
It is often better and safer to buy from a reputable car dealer than risking a large sum of money on a private sale, even though it might seem a ‘bargain’ at the time. Some Reputable car dealerships do offer you AA Autocheck and roadworthy check as part of procedure before they can actually sell the car, the dealers told me it was required by law.

http://autoadvice.co.za/auto/how-to-buy-a-used-car

http://www.kinseyreport.co.za/
 
Stick to your existing one. Changes are just gonna screw you over bro

Also...mad necro

Shout-out to 2015!!!!!
 
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