Chicken Price hike bye-bye KFC?

Cool E said:
Live chicken cost R40 in most township. Most people will prefer buying it this time. With streetwise two costing almost r25.
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I've dipped my toes into the market, it's price fixed thuggery and cartels. Real exploitation of the poor.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
Wrong

Chicken farming is more labour intensive than sheep farming, you need more feed, weather is critical, a heat wave will wipe out easily 20-30% of your chickens per day. Reason why we have chicken shortages over December / January.

You have problems disposing your waste and chickens make a lot of poop. The poop is also a health hazard so you run the risk of your staff passing out in the chicken runs.

You need an abattoir on your premises, so access to clean treated water is critical.

You need a constant buyer as you just cant keep your chickens for another 2 months while looking for a new buyer.

Very challenging industry.
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I don't believe you need to abattoir on your premises.
 
abzo said:
Rabbit is delicious and cheap. Not sure why it's uncommon here. Some rumour about people being afraid it's actually cat?
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You can't begin to compare rabbit to cat. Sure cat is a bit more difficult to skin, but if you prepare it properly there is nothing that comes close to it. Braai, fry, cook, stew, it's just that versatile.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Heard a lady on 702 who owns a grocery store this morning ranting about how awful the local poultry quality is and that importing gives her better quality products.
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You get what you pay for. I use to work on the chicken farm Lazina and there is nothing wrong with their chicken, top restaurants have been using it for decades and they where even a major supplier to Woolies (when it mattered).

You do get some crap brands in this country like Bonny Bird and those awful deep frozen pieces that are not properly cleaned.
 
Albereth said:
Note: Before some of you start asking for links and photos. I don't have any. I am not an investigative journalist. I have my own experiences, my own reading of others' works, and my own conclusions. Not saying that there is a conspiracy but there is an awful lot of greed.
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I would like a link to prove you're not an investigative journalist! :P
 
cbrunsdonza said:
You get what you pay for. I use to work on the chicken farm Lazina and there is nothing wrong with their chicken, top restaurants have been using it for decades and they where even a major supplier to Woolies (when it mattered).

You do get some crap brands in this country like Bonny Bird and those awful deep frozen pieces that are not properly cleaned.
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Yah, makes sense that we'd have proper quality ones. Maybe the better quality local is more than expensive than the better quality import?
 
My brother in law is a duck farmer. Or I should say THE duck farmer in South Africa as he pretty much sources every duck sold in the area. It's an incredibly difficult business to be in by the sounds of it. Your growing costs are enormous and health and safety regulations are very strict. The space needed to house a duck is much larger than that for chicken; except when you're competing with Chinese mass-produced duck farms.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
Wrong

Chicken farming is more labour intensive than sheep farming, you need more feed, weather is critical, a heat wave will wipe out easily 20-30% of your chickens per day. Reason why we have chicken shortages over December / January.

You have problems disposing your waste and chickens make a lot of poop. The poop is also a health hazard so you run the risk of your staff passing out in the chicken runs.

You need an abattoir on your premises, so access to clean treated water is critical.

You need a constant buyer as you just cant keep your chickens for another 2 months while looking for a new buyer.

Very challenging industry.
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Hmm. Interesting. Sheep have always been parts of the landscape that go bah. I remember rustlers being our problem with sheep and having to be extra vigilant during lambing season. But that was many years ago.

I take your points about what you need for your chicken farm but it still seems more like a process to me than the others. A sick chicken is concerning but you are less likely to take it to a vet than you would a cow (or a sheep). And by take, I mean call the vet out.

I have never experienced a chicken shortage. Or heat related fatalities (but as I said, ours are free range).
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Heard a lady on 702 who owns a grocery store this morning ranting about how awful the local poultry quality is and that importing gives her better quality products.
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She is probably buying cheap broilers. The imported ones from Brazil have plenty steroids to boost them :D
 
cerebus said:
My brother in law is a duck farmer. Or I should say THE duck farmer in South Africa as he pretty much sources every duck sold in the area. It's an incredibly difficult business to be in by the sounds of it. Your growing costs are enormous and health and safety regulations are very strict. The space needed to house a duck is much larger than that for chicken; except when you're competing with Chinese mass-produced duck farms.
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I have been invited to a duck hunt this weekend :D
 
KFC gets it's chicken from local suppliers (like Rainbow/Astra etc). It's the supermarket chains that sell the odd chicken brands that will be affected but then you won't be getting chickens as full with brine anymore.
 
ghoti said:
I have been invited to a duck hunt this weekend :D
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Have fun.
 
Fudzy said:
KFC gets it's chicken from local suppliers (like Rainbow/Astra etc). It's the supermarket chains that sell the odd chicken brands that will be affected but then you won't be getting chickens as full with brine anymore.
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I am not sure I understand your statement, I thought it is the local producers who pump the chicken full of brine. I doubt they will just say "Oh look, we are getting 30 cents more per chicken, why don't we let those multimillion rand brining machines we bought stand still and lose 15c of that 30c?" I would say that is not going to happen, they will continue as before smug with the knowledge they have a great court ordered price monopoly.

I would even venture with these type of price protections, they would have no incentive to try raise a quality product. Expect it to get worse not better.
 
ghoti said:
I really dont see why we need to import poultry. This is something we should be concentrating of making sustainable here.
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The problem is the skills and start-up funds required. That and the fact that the big companies would more than likely just bully you out of the market unless you commit to being a multi million rand company yourself from the get go.....

If the government was capable I would have loved to have seen them developing skilled farmers and backing financially a market that could grow to become a bit of a problem solver on the job creation front as well as combating inflation on meat products by having "produced" locally.
 
visrot said:
So the ITAC, the International Trade Administration Commission, wants higher tariffs on chicken imports.
This could mean a price increase at the till of 30% to 50%. Price increases will also have a dire effect on the take away industry.

Interesting discussion with David Wolpert ,chief executive of the Association of Meat Importers and Exporters of South Africa. LISTEN/READ HERE

What do you make of this?
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I say let the ANC led government do it! This will lead to excessive chicken prices, a staple meat in South Africa, and further dissatisfaction. Come 2014 the ANC will be their own worst enemy.
 
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