Children doused with meths during farm attack

[supersunbird]

Some people LIKE to farm, so why can't they?

With your reasoning JStrike and if I was president, I would ban your job the moment you were affected by a crime...

Reason being, your job made that your were in a city, where there is a high density of criminals, so it must be a bad job cause it put you in this horrendous situation...

Anycase, I will yet again state my views, its possible to greatly reduce of farm attacks if government had the will to do it. And no, I'm not saying its all governments responsability, but they have a big part to make it happen because they are the primary enabler:
Subsidies for electric fencing around farmstead.
Subsidies for equipment for joining a MARNET (Militêre ARea NETwork) style radio network.
Regular patrols by some kind of paramilitary/police force (focusing on trespassers and suspicious activities).

And there are a gazillion other things the farmer along with the government can do, the farmer cant do it by himself.

 

[nivek]

Ya.. the commandos were better at protecting farmers than the police, why do you think the ANC did away with them? I guess its alot cheaper to buy a farm from a traumatised family who is willing to sell just to get rid of it

 

[JStrike]

supersunbird : Noone said anything about banning people and not allowing them to farm if they wish

I actually like your points. They are things that could *substantially* improve safetly on farms

 

[LandyMan]

LOL @ Verstaan djy

 

[supersunbird]

supersunbird : Noone said anything about banning people and not allowing them to farm if they wish

I actually like your points. They are things that could *substantially* improve safetly on farms

Thanks, well then, if there is no banning, I am happy...

 

[ajak]

JStrike!YOU TAKE AWAY MY “PAP EN VLEIS” AND I WILL KEEL YOU!

 

[ettubrute]

Ajak! As jy my kielie lag ek my dood!

 

[Darth Garth]

Ya.. the commandos were better at protecting farmers than the police, why do you think the ANC did away with them?

Some units (not all) consisted of racist thugs and who were a law unto themselves ... there were incidents and complaints.

Unlike the SADF which could be reformed internally i.e no longer treat black people automatically as the enemy the same could not be done with the commando units.

It was easier to disband it completely.

 

[Doges]

Doges : Import. Verstaan djy?

The agriculture sector is an important earner of foreign exchange. In 2000, agricultural exports resulted in foreign exchange to the value of R14 573 million. Sugar accounted for the largest export value as well as wine, citrus fruit, grapes, preserved fruits and nuts.

Agricultural exports accounted for 7% of the total SA exports in 2000 (7% in 2001 and 8% in 2002)

Although the country represents approximately 6% of the total population and 4% of the total surface area of the African continent, it nevertheless produces a significant proportion of the total agricultural production of the African continent.

Primary agriculture also contributes about 2,6% to the gross domestic product (GDP) of South Africa and almost 9% of formal employment. However, there are strong backward and forward linkages into the economy, so that the agro-industrial sector is estimated to comprise 15% of GDP.

I also don't think this figure includes any revenue generated from agri-tourism. So, agriculture contributes a significant amount to the SA economy.

South Africa’s strategic position at the southern-most tip of Africa enables it to make a large contribution towards agricultural development, the protection of scarce resources, social upliftment and the well being of the continents population. It is furthermore estimated that in South Africa, 6 million people are dependant on agriculture for a livelihood, whilst every South African benefits from the country’s agriculture.

Do you really think that the service industry can absorb these type of figures, and replace the foreign exchange earned by agriculture? Please keep in mind that our economy remains highly dependent on exports of primary minerals, delivered mainly to industrialised countries in Europe and Asia. Mining exports account for roughly 40 %. This is based on a LIMITED resource. Whilst farming is SUSTAINABLE. Manufacturing fills in the rest of the 100%. So in future our limited mining resources will become depleted, and now our "booming" service industry will have to fill this gap as well. Just for interest sake, what type of exports are currently derived from the service industries?

Coming back to the meths story, does anyone realize how stories like this influences SA's image in the rest of the world? It is cruel and barbaric, and it creates an image of SA that none of us would like to be associated with. Crimes like these should be a priority for our police to solve, and perpetrators should be punished as severly as our lenient laws allows us. Removing agriculture from our economy as JStrike proposes will also serve no purpose other than to inflate our already over inflated unemployement figures.

 

[DigitalSoldier]

@tibby i agree with u that it would be hard to change their mindset but something needs to be done what about getting a new commando's team consisting of black and white people that actually want to help and protect people.

@doges. I just saw in todays paper that there was another farm atack in limpopo yesterday where 2 old people 63 and 65 were tied together in the bath tub and then hot kettle water was poured over them.

Something needs to be done about the crime. I really really hope that something like this happens to one of our state officials so that they can open their eyes and start protecting people.

Edit: Sorry it might be harsh wishing this crime on some1 but the government needs to start doing something. They might just hate the white people enough to hope land reform will be done by the people so they (the government) dont have to worry about it or theres another reason. But people doing stuff like that cant be human.

 

[Doges]

Some units (not all) consisted of racist thugs and who were a law unto themselves ... there were incidents and complaints.

Always amazes me how quickly gov reacted when these "incidents and complaints" were lodged, to disband these "evil racist" units but how slow they are to react to these -

just saw in todays paper that there was another farm atack in limpopo yesterday where 2 old people 63 and 65 were tied together in the bath tub and then hot kettle water was poured over them.

- heinous crimes. Seems to me some people are more equal to the ANC than others. These crimes are barbaric, evil and definately race motivated. Funny how these murders seems to happen most in places were there are some land reform issues. Makes me wonder who the real racists are......, and what the real motives for these senseless killings are.

 

[hj2k_x]

animals indeed... i can only hope HIV strikes them down because our goverment refuses to do anything constructive against violent crime... ...as usual.

Well said. What goes around comes around

 

[hj2k_x]

Sorry buddy, but a country with a fertile soil should NEVER abolish agriculture! Rather step it up, and start exporting food to those countries that are too small to afford huge farms...

Thinking about what we would eat? I'm sure you're referring to import of food. IMNSHO that's a crap idea! Imagine if, for some or other reason, the world turns against a country that imports all it's food. One sanction, and the country is wiped out!

ahh m8, at last something we can agree on! I am with u on this one ettu.

 

[craigsa]

nivek : Fair enough. But only drawing attention to the bad in also the wrong thing to do

Some people here would like to know what is going on and not just live life with blinkers and believing everything we are dished out by the gvt.

 

[nivek]

Something needs to be done about the crime. I really really hope that something like this happens to one of our state officials so that they can open their eyes and start protecting people.

ah but the ANC are doing something about crime! Promoting it and helping it spread, letting it run wild.. taking away legal guns, taking away any effective forms of protection...

Farmers living in fear are more likely to give away their farms for next to nothing.. Or think of it this way, a farmer and his wife gets killed in a farm attack, leaving the farm to their kids.. do you think their kids would wanna keep the farm? probably not.. they'll probably sell it way under market value just to get rid of it.. This works out PERFECTLY for the government..

 

[DigitalSoldier]

nivek that sounds about right. By the way did any1 see the statement made by mr zuma about his shower after sex set the south african hiv awareness campain back 15 years.

I cant help to wonder what would have happened if the farm owners shot these savages before they did anything what would have been done ? Farmer would most probably be charged for murder and gone to jail for self defence

 

[Doges]

nivek that sounds about right. By the way did any1 see the statement made by mr zuma about his shower after sex set the south african hiv awareness campain back 15 years.

I saw it too, isn't it pathetic, the ANC spent millions of Rands to educate people about AIDS. And it's own deputy are too stoopid to learn something from the campaign.

I cant help to wonder what would have happened if the farm owners shot these savages before they did anything what would have been done ? Farmer would most probably be charged for murder and gone to jail for self defence

...you forgot to mention the standard label the guy would then be described with......"Racist thug"....