China - Taiwan Developments

[NarrowBandFtw]

While it is true that snipers were present during the Ukrainian protests, it is important to avoid making assumptions or jumping to conclusions about their role without sufficient evidence.

fair enough, populist uprisings however don't come with unidentified professional snipers on rooftops executing civilians ...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

This would be awesome if this can happen in SA.

More unemployment would be awesome in SA?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

SA is a bottom feeder African sh1th0le run into the ground by a criminal mafia gang. China is the opposite of that.

I find it quite funny that peeps from a terrible sh1th0le think they can look down on China. The Chinese will laugh at these people.

China would run the locals even more into the ground. The Chinese do laugh at all Africans.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

The thing with the snipers.... they could have been sent by anyone.

We know after all they fired at BOTH sides in an attempt to start a free for all.

Whether the coup was orchestrated to happen as it did or not really is irrelevant in terms of regime change..... all that matters is that someone wanted the regime to change and it happened.... I really doubt they cared how exactly it happened so there really is no sense in getting lost in the weeds.

We also know that China is attempting to capture the Indonesia government the same way it's doing with the Taiwan government.... this game is being played at a much higher level than just coups.

Amazing. The sniper story in Ukraine is accepted without question by the Putinbots but the protestors shot in the back at Sharpeville is rejected.

 

[Dave]

fair enough, populist uprisings however don't come with unidentified professional snipers on rooftops executing civilians ...

So are you talking about Chinese snipers in Taiwan or Taiwanese snipers in China?

This is all rather confusing...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I notice the origin of your photos is not mentioned? Why is that so??

But please allow me to help you with some facts which are rather easy to find if you just look:

President Saddam Hussein (1937-2006) pursued the most extensive chemical program during the Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988), when he waged chemical warfare against his foe. He also used chemicals in 1988 in the Al-Anfal Campaign against his civilian Kurdish population and during a popular uprising in the south in 1991 .

Iraqi chemical weapons program - Wikipedia

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Saddam Hussein (1937-2006) began an extensive biological weapons (BW) program in Iraq in the early 1980s, despite having signed (but not ratified until 1991) the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) of 1972.

Iraqi biological weapons program - Wikipedia

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Saddam's response was a partial declaration of his chemical weapon and ballistic missile capacity. Believing he could hoodwink UN inspectors and ride out international sanctions, he held back the remainder and denied entirely the existence of his biological and nuclear weapons programmes.

What Did Happen To Saddam’s WMD? | History Today

www.historytoday.com

Now that I have provided you with some reading material to debunk your strawman argument, could you get back on topic to China and Taiwan at all?

 

[Blu82]

China would run the locals even more into the ground. The Chinese do laugh at all Africans.

They typically don't use locals and ship in their own man power from China. An example of this is the cement plant near Dwaalboom taken over by a Chinese company. They import all their own labour / equipment / food with the workers staying on the premises which means the local community gains nothing from it.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

fair enough, populist uprisings however don't come with unidentified professional snipers on rooftops executing civilians ...

Like the protestors at Sharpeville that were shot in the back?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

They typically don't use locals and ship in their own man power from China. An example of this is the cement plant near Dwaalboom taken over by a Chinese company. They import all their own labour / equipment / food with the workers staying on the premises which means the local community gains nothing from it.

I've seen this all over Africa but the Chinese supporters here don't want to hear about it. Until it's too late - Again.

I then get to say, "I told you so". - Again.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

So are you talking about Chinese snipers in Taiwan or Taiwanese snipers in China?

This is all rather confusing...

that particular response was Ukraine

 

[Cosmik Debris]

that particular response was Ukraine

Do you have any references for these snipers and who sent them?

 

[BBSA]

fair enough, populist uprisings however don't come with unidentified professional snipers on rooftops executing civilians ...

Regardless, it is no justification for Russia to invade Ukraine. The reality is that Russia has demonstrated imperialist tendencies by expanding its territory over the past decade in Ukraine.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Regardless, it is no justification for Russia to invade Ukraine. The reality is that Russia has demonstrated imperialist tendencies by expanding its territory over the past decade in Ukraine.

it doesn't have to be justified in order for it to be the trigger

and it was the trigger

 

[Dave]

that particular response was Ukraine

Oh, ok, I couldn't figure out the China-Taiwan angle. I thought this was another crazy conspiracy theory...

 

[BBSA]

it doesn't have to be justified in order for it to be the trigger

and it was the trigger

You acknowledged that it is important to avoid making unsubstantiated assumptions or jumping to conclusions, yet you seem to be doing so once again.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Oh, ok, I couldn't figure out the China-Taiwan angle. I thought this was another crazy conspiracy theory...

Nah, its the same old crazy conspiracy theory... nothing new.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

it doesn't have to be justified in order for it to be the trigger

and it was the trigger

So, killing someone doesn't have to be justified if there was a trigger?

 

[rambo919]

that particular response was Ukraine

You really need to stop feeding the hyenas....

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

You acknowledged that it is important to avoid making unsubstantiated assumptions or jumping to conclusions, yet you seem to be doing so once again.

how so?

Russia literally said as much, no assumptions required

the coup happened, Russia took Crimea, action and reaction, doesn't mean it is justified, it was obviously the trigger and later officially confirmed by Russia as it felt the situation had deteriorated to the point where they had to protect Russian people in Crimea

just like the Ukraine NATO flirtation went on for years while being protested, a red line was drawn and crossed, then war happened, you can argue how justified that was, you cannot argue it wasn't the trigger

 

[BBSA]

how so?

Russia literally said as much, no assumptions required

the coup happened, Russia took Crimea, action and reaction, doesn't mean it is justified, it was obviously the trigger and later officially confirmed by Russia as it felt the situation had deteriorated to the point where they had to protect Russian people in Crimea

just like the Ukraine NATO flirtation went on for years while being protested, a red line was drawn and crossed, then war happened, you can argue how justified that was, you cannot argue it wasn't the trigger

Just because Russia says something, it doesn't necessarily make it true. It's possible for Russia to have ulterior motives or intentionally deceive, so it's wise to approach their statements with skepticism rather than naivety.