Chip Tuning

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Hi everyone. I'm really interested in getting my Audi 2.0T chipped. I know the science behind it and how it works but what I do not know is the difference between something like Unichip and going to places like Turbochip where its a purely software upgrade. Whats the difference? Whats better? Who is the most reputable place to go to for Audi and VW motors?
 
I'm also looking at chipping my polo. Not sure of the pro's and cons either. Will most likely go with the unichip, just cause I think I can take it from car to car.
 
Audi themselves 'chipped' (flashed) a friends 2.0T - so still with the warrabty etc. He actually collected it from the showroom with the software - so not sure if they do it afterwards?

It was the same software than the Audi DTM came with and took him from 147/280 to 162/320 at a cost of R10,000 back in 2006.

Most software today is about R5,000
 
Hi everyone. I'm really interested in getting my Audi 2.0T chipped. I know the science behind it and how it works but what I do not know is the difference between something like Unichip and going to places like Turbochip where its a purely software upgrade. Whats the difference? Whats better? Who is the most reputable place to go to for Audi and VW motors?

I would highly recommend Eurospeed.

They have a very good reputation in the industry. The do software upgrades, in that they upload optimised software maps directly onto your car's ECU.
In my opinion, software upgrades are better than piggy-back chips as they are undetectable and require no hardware changes.

A few other good option for Audi are Revo and FRC and a few others which I can't remember so early on a Monday morning :p

I don't like the idea of Unichips and such.
 
For petrol use REVO - VW/AUDI specialists. Best in the World I think.
For diesel use Unichip
 
Most of the guys over at the Seat Sport forums use either CPi or REVO afaik. (Seat's use the same engines as Audi's/VW's.)
 
To explain the concept as originally asked:

Unichip and many other actual chips are physical hardware. The throttle position sensor, airmass sensor, air temperature sensor, etc. wires are all physically cut, then a signal processor is placed between the ECU (car computer and those sensors). The "chip" then modifies the signal on the way to the ECU. Hence it is known as a piggyback.

The other "chips" which are only software, don't actually change anything physically. They are charging you a crap load of money for a software update. Basically the ECU contains a map with values of the various sensors and how much fuel should be injected, what kind of ignition advance should be applied and what kind of boost the turbo should provide. The "chip" or rather software update, changes those values.

Software update is far safer, more reliable solution these days. Piggy back is old school and you should only install it if the tuner has a good reason for it (eg. software update not available).

Lastly software update is fairly basic, in most cases they've already went and created a map beforehand that they keep reselling for Rxxxx. They've tested it on one car and then just add it to every "client" that wishes to "soup" up their rides. The software update will in 95% of the cases consist of an increase in Turbo boost pressure and increased fuel to make the mixture richer (to prevent detonation) and possible decrease ignition timing in some regions of the map. The reason for increasing the fuel IS NOT to add performance, it is to keep the engine cooler. The increased boost pressure will increase the heat exponentially, increasing the chances of detonation greatly (which will destroy a turbo engine immediately). To counteract the heat they increase the amount of fuel (which takes heat away by way of evaporation) and sometimes decrease ignition timing (increased ignition timing increases performance but rapidly increases heat generated by the engine). The amount of fuel is also increase because a leaner mixture (less fuel) burns much hotter, thus increasing the amount of fuel also creates a flame front that isn't as hot. (Think of a furnace. A furnace is much hotter because it is a "lean mixture" that is there is excess oxygen for the amount of fuel)

So fuel usage will increase fairly dramatically depending on amount of boost applied. It all depends how close to the point of detonation the manufacturer tuned the engine and how much leeway they left to protect the engine (hard to explain what I mean by leeway).
 
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Thanks for that. Information very useful. So I basically made my decision between Unichip and just getting the ECU software remapped.

So where is Revo in SA?
 
Dastek. UniQchip. can change settings via bluetooth. they in centurion.
 
To explain the concept as originally asked:

Unichip and many other actual chips are physical hardware. The throttle position sensor, airmass sensor, air temperature sensor, etc. wires are all physically cut, then a signal processor is placed between the ECU (car computer and those sensors). The "chip" then modifies the signal on the way to the ECU. Hence it is known as a piggyback.

The other "chips" which are only software, don't actually change anything physically. They are charging you a crap load of money for a software update. Basically the ECU contains a map with values of the various sensors and how much fuel should be injected, what kind of ignition advance should be applied and what kind of boost the turbo should provide. The "chip" or rather software update, changes those values.

Software update is far safer, more reliable solution these days. Piggy back is old school and you should only install it if the tuner has a good reason for it (eg. software update not available).

Lastly software update is fairly basic, in most cases they've already went and created a map beforehand that they keep reselling for Rxxxx. They've tested it on one car and then just add it to every "client" that wishes to "soup" up their rides. The software update will in 95% of the cases consist of an increase in Turbo boost pressure and increased fuel to make the mixture richer (to prevent detonation) and possible decrease ignition timing in some regions of the map. The reason for increasing the fuel IS NOT to add performance, it is to keep the engine cooler. The increased boost pressure will increase the heat exponentially, increasing the chances of detonation greatly (which will destroy a turbo engine immediately). To counteract the heat they increase the amount of fuel (which takes heat away by way of evaporation) and sometimes decrease ignition timing (increased ignition timing increases performance but rapidly increases heat generated by the engine). The amount of fuel is also increase because a leaner mixture (less fuel) burns much hotter, thus increasing the amount of fuel also creates a flame front that isn't as hot. (Think of a furnace. A furnace is much hotter because it is a "lean mixture" that is there is excess oxygen for the amount of fuel)

So fuel usage will increase fairly dramatically depending on amount of boost applied. It all depends how close to the point of detonation the manufacturer tuned the engine and how much leeway they left to protect the engine (hard to explain what I mean by leeway).

By boost you mean turbo boost or accelerator boost?
Coz fuel consumption is reduced, unless you push it.

I get 6.5l/100km average 20km trip /120kmph.
17l/100km if I redline every gear to 200. (which believe it or not, is quite good.)
 
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