LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Me and my foreskin are really attached to each other. I'd rather cut off my right hand than have to lose part of my Johnson.
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Circumcision
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porchrat
Honorary Master
Thanks Reiku_San. Nice to hear from someone that has experienced it as an adult.
Need more people to think like this.
ShaunSA
Derailment Squad
SoulTax
Executive Member
Knew I should never have looked! :wtf:
arrrgggg curiosity just killed my cat. it was the inherent kneejerk action at seeing that picture that sent the poor thing flying out my 10th floor window:erm: poor guy.
D34M0n7
Executive Member
Aargh! You know when you see a guy get kicked in the nuts and you somehow feel that pain.
This made me cross my legs.
And Poor cat!
Nanfeishen
Executive Member
And to think all the complications, and extra expense of medical bills, doctors visits, time, inconvenience and discomfort could have been prevented with a minor little cut with minimal fuss and cost as a baby. 
The only medical benefits i can see for doctors proscribing non-circumcision in infancy is that there is more guarantee of future monetary gains from consultations with regards to future complications.
If the actions of my parents possibly prevented me from suffering with any of the problems associated with non-circumcision as a child, and reduce or prevent future complications as an adult, i can, and will thank them for making and taking that decision on my behalf. IMHO it demonstrates that they loved me enough to do something for me as child that would possibly benefit me as an adult even after they were no longer possibly around.
Any person IMHO who doesnt take precautions to prevent possible future health complications for their child no matter how slight or unlikely they may be, should not be a parent.
The only medical benefits i can see for doctors proscribing non-circumcision in infancy is that there is more guarantee of future monetary gains from consultations with regards to future complications.
If the actions of my parents possibly prevented me from suffering with any of the problems associated with non-circumcision as a child, and reduce or prevent future complications as an adult, i can, and will thank them for making and taking that decision on my behalf. IMHO it demonstrates that they loved me enough to do something for me as child that would possibly benefit me as an adult even after they were no longer possibly around.
Any person IMHO who doesnt take precautions to prevent possible future health complications for their child no matter how slight or unlikely they may be, should not be a parent.
Somebody drank the cool-aid.
If that is the case case then they should have also removed your tonsils, appendix, nipples and a few other things at birth as well.
Your logic fails but I suspect your opinion is based on a justification for what was done to you.
If that is the case case then they should have also removed your tonsils, appendix, nipples and a few other things at birth as well.
Your logic fails but I suspect your opinion is based on a justification for what was done to you.
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D34M0n7
Executive Member
And to think all the complications, and extra expense of medical bills, doctors visits, time, inconvenience and discomfort could have been prevented with a minor little cut with minimal fuss and cost as a baby.
The only medical benefits i can see for doctors proscribing non-circumcision in infancy is that there is more guarantee of future monetary gains from consultations with regards to future complications.
If the actions of my parents possibly prevented me from suffering with any of the problems associated with non-circumcision as a child, and reduce or prevent future complications as an adult, i can, and will thank them for making and taking that decision on my behalf. IMHO it demonstrates that they loved me enough to do something for me as child that would possibly benefit me as an adult even after they were no longer possibly around.
Any person IMHO who doesnt take precautions to prevent possible future health complications for their child no matter how slight or unlikely they may be, should not be a parent.
Utter trollip!
From what you are saying the majority of men who are uncircumcised have problems with their foreskin. This is BS.
There are a minority of men who do and the minute possibility that you will have a botched-up foreskin later in life is not enough to justify removing it as an infant. The risks (and cost if it goes wrong) of circumcision far outweigh any issues you may ever have with that piece of skin.
It is also not good parenting to have it removed, in fact its horrible parenting. Other than the fact that you are permanently removing something that serves a function and enhances sexual pleasure, you are performing surgery on a BABY!
Why don't we have our appendix removed before it god bat shyt crazy (if it ever does)? Well, because of the complications involved with surgery of course! We will all agree that if you do get appendicitis that the risk of having it removed is necessary because if it is not removed you will die.
But it is not worth the risk having it removed if you do not have appendicitis, because it poses no immediate threat whereas the surgery does.
Preventative measures are the worst means of attempting to justify circumcision on an infant, its illogical, ill advised and dangerous.
If you want it as an adult, fine! Its your choice.
Rather don't have a child in the first place, that way there will never be any complications with the person because they won't exist!
It seems that many of you who were butchered at birth have this belief that there is a high chance that foreskins cause problems. The truth is that those problems are so rare that it is ridiculous to even consider being cut at birth to stop some potential problem in the future.
And besides, being circumcised has too many down sides so its stupid to have it done unless absolutely necessary.
And besides, being circumcised has too many down sides so its stupid to have it done unless absolutely necessary.
EchoZA
Expert Member
Nanfeishen
Executive Member
No need to justify anything, as i cannot miss something i have no recollection of ever having in the first place.
Far more complex surgeries are performed on infants than a simple circumcision.
Circumcision is linked to many benefits, from general health to cervical cancer and emerging studies in the fields of microbiology and virology, are increasingly finding that the net benefits of circumcision do offer reductions in bacteriological infections as well as a reduction in the transfer of a number of diseases.
Background
Conclusions/Significance
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0008422
HPV Virology and Treatment
http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/HPV_Virology_and_Treatment
Changes in Bacteria Within Penis Microbiome
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100106003617.htm
IMHO , many men with foreskins have become emotionally attached to them,
and cannot comprehend that those who were snipped near birth dont feel any loss for not having them, while the circumcised mob dont see :erm: what all the fuss is about."It does have the potential to prevent many tens of thousands, many hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of infections over coming years," says Dr Kevin De Cock, director of the World Health Organization's Department of HIV/AIDS. "
Obviously no one else found this coincidence funny.
Obviously no one else found this coincidence funny.
porchrat
Honorary Master
He didn't say you missed it merely that you were trying to justify it. I would guess because you don't like to admit that your parents may have made a judgment error.
I'm glad it is humble considering that it is a baseless generalisation. If you weren't being humble about it you'd look like a total prat.IMHO , many men with foreskins have become emotionally attached to them,
Personally I'm all for giving the kid a choice. You're talking about sexually transmitted diseases as though by the time the kid needs to worry about sexually transmitted diseases he couldn't have made his own mind up about circumcision. It is at the end of the day a preventative measure even if we can link it to decreased this and decreased that. It is therefore still non-crucial surgery and we should be waiting until the child is old enough to decide for himself. So far you have not provided any reason why the circumcision can't wait.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
You guys who are arguing for snipping....
Tell me... Why don't you also get your ears cut off? You do know that those can also get infected if not cleaned properly? Have you seen the wax build up in some of those flappers?
And come to think of it... those teeth of yours... they are just going to give you lots of problems with abscess, infections, plaque, gum disease, cavities.
Better pull them all out now.
And while we are on the subject... fingers... those nails just keep growing and getting dirty, and growing and getting dirty... and you might suffer a hangnail.
Better cut your kids fingers off while you can... you don't want him hassling with that crap later in life!
Tell me... Why don't you also get your ears cut off? You do know that those can also get infected if not cleaned properly? Have you seen the wax build up in some of those flappers?
And come to think of it... those teeth of yours... they are just going to give you lots of problems with abscess, infections, plaque, gum disease, cavities.
Better pull them all out now.
And while we are on the subject... fingers... those nails just keep growing and getting dirty, and growing and getting dirty... and you might suffer a hangnail.
Better cut your kids fingers off while you can... you don't want him hassling with that crap later in life!
D34M0n7
Executive Member
Read my post again. If you understood it you'd realise that circumcision is not necessary to sustain the child's life. And therefore is a risk to the child's health. End of story.
You may as well give him a prince albert and a tattoo.
As for the reduction in bacteria and lower risk of contracting HIV, all this is subjective. If you don't have any sense of personal hygiene then this will become a problem, essentially you will have to be a person that bathes around once a week and has no access to condoms. And a total slut.
Just remember that the foreskin is not just a piece of skin, it has many functions and only in extreme conditions will it become problematic. So it is never worth removing unless it becomes necessary, much like amputating an arm.
gpe
Senior Member
Julius Malema is the single reason why circumcisions have shot up in this country by ten fold ... because damn! You do not want to "End Up" like him 