Class War is Just Beginning

[Nicodeamus]

Seismic economic and demographic changes will feed division and conflict.​

With the seeming deconstruction of the Biden Administration proceeding at a rapid clip, many on the right hope for an end to the conscious stoking of class resentments that has characterized progressive politics. Yet despite the political meltdown, America’s class divides have become so wide, and so bitter, that Biden’s presidency may prove more a prelude than a denouement for the future of class warfare.

Under both parties, American society, traditionally egalitarian, at least in theory, has become ever more divided by financial class. Today, the Federal Reserve demonstrates that the top one percent have more assets than the 60 percent who occupy the middle rungs. The remarkable rise of the tech oligarchy has paced this change, creating a gusher of wealth for the chosen few, including youthful, unproven start-up CEOs turned instant billionaires—as well as an unprecedented boom on Wall Street. The pandemic has accelerated this trend, vastly enriching the elites, and raising executive salaries to the highest ever. Meanwhile much of the working and middle classes may become increasingly dependent on what Marx called “the proletarian alms bag.”

In the process, the traditional ballast of American politics—a striving aspirational middle and working class—has been decimated. Our system rests on the notion of class mobility in both directions, without which everything devolves into a struggle over limited assets. Not surprising, notes Pew, most Americans are alienated from the political system. Roughly half of all Americans see capitalism as causing more harm than good, notes the recent Edelman trust survey, and a large majority fears being “left behind” economically. The prelude to autocracy and an expanded state, whether in twentieth century Europe or places like Chile today, rests upon alienation and a market that seems incapable of providing opportunities for the most families.

Class War is Just Beginning

Seismic economic and demographic changes will feed division and conflict.

americanmind.org

 

[Nicodeamus]

With the current concentrations of power, it does feel that we are moving into a modern form of feudalism,

 

[konfab]

How this sounds:

 

[grok]

Good, its time we see a few heads on a stake..

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

Problem with this - sure as hell China and Russia are flaming the fuel here on social media, weaken the opponent. Further problem, America has a tendency of using war to unite their people. Their rich will start a war somewhere, before they surrender their wealth.

Makes one nervous with the stuff going on in Taiwan and Ukraine.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Problem with this - sure as hell China and Russia are flaming the fuel here on social media, weaken the opponent. Further problem, America has a tendency of using war to unite their people. Their rich will start a war somewhere, before they surrender their wealth.

Makes one nervous with the stuff going on in Taiwan and Ukraine.

I haven't seen so many people before being awoken to international politics and the unfair structure of the US class system before. For the first time people are questioning the legitimacy of the trilateral commission, regulation capture, bigpharma etc

it is possible to run another scare story and start another war, but I think that opposition is too high at this stage.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

I haven't seen so many people before being awoken to international politics and the unfair structure of the US class system before. For the first time people are questioning the legitimacy of the trilateral commission, regulation capture, bigpharma etc

it is possible to run another scare story and start another war, but I think that opposition is too high at this stage.

Probably won't be a scare story, it'll be an attack. Or something similar to 9/11. #jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams

 

[Barbarian Conan]

Problem with this - sure as hell China and Russia are flaming the fuel here on social media, weaken the opponent. Further problem, America has a tendency of using war to unite their people. Their rich will start a war somewhere, before they surrender their wealth.

Makes one nervous with the stuff going on in Taiwan and Ukraine.

Very.

TSMC needs to build more factories in the rest of the world pronto!

 

[Cray]

How this sounds:

 

[rvZA]

Kill off the middle class and top class and take all their assets and money. Nationalize everything. Expropriate everything. Kill off all methods of communications and the Internet. Pay every man, woman and child $1 a month. Problem solved. Equality achieved.

 

[Polymathic]

I'm in. Like all good revolutions the Royals must be exterminated.

/Ordering a guillotine whilst simultaneously looking for the best route to Ulundi

 

[cerebus]

The global elite has already successfully synthesised class warfare in the form of anti-liberalism.

 

[cerebus]

...or liberalism

The new class war: did a liberal elite pave the way for rise of Trump?

Michael Lind’s new book argues that ‘technocratic neoliberalism’ cut itself off from white working-class heartlands and opened the door to rightwing populism

www.theguardian.com

That's exactly what I mean. Trump is a good example of someone who misdirected class and inequality resentment into a kind of anti-liberal backlash.

 

[Nicodeamus]

That's exactly what I mean. Trump is a good example of someone who misdirected class and inequality resentment into a kind of anti-liberal backlash.

a lot about this debate is that our politics don't represent people who work with their hands, it's mostly tech and wallstreet. Trump just capitaliszed on the opportunity,

the republicans have all the ability to become the party of the middle class, but something tells me that they are going to miss the opportunity by clinging onto a dead racial nationalism or a trump cult.

 

[Brian_G]

Probably won't be a scare story, it'll be an attack. Or something similar to 9/11. #jetfuelcantmeltsteelbeams

What's the bottom line objective though? Create hate and get us to kill ourselves off to defeat "overpopulation"?

 

[cerebus]

And liberals need to take their share of the blame for the pendulum swing. It's a-happenin' again.
Don't be surprised to see a Trump in the White house again soon.

There is no pendulum swing. Class warfare isn't partisan. It comes from great inequalities between the wealthy elite and the lower classes.

Democrats and Republicans are both to blame certainly but essentially it's the elites. Trump and Clinton and Gates and Prince Andrew were all complicit with Epstein.

But the great trick of modern politics is to sublimate class resentment into partisan warfare. And that's most apparent in the authoritarian anti-liberal movement.

 

[JIMMYtheSKULL]

About time me thinks.

 

[buka001]

There won't be a "Class War" in the USA, or UK etc.

The elite wield too much power for the common working folk to be able to usurp that power.

The lower classes rely too much on the power provided by the elite, such that a system of neo-serfdom exists in many ways.

John Steinbeck captured this in his novel "The Grapes of Wrath". Writing about how fruit pickers were exploited. They would take a job for say 3cents a fruit, only to be told the next day the rate had dropped to 1.5cents. Those who protested were arrested and beaten and removed as "communists". The next day they would fill up those roles with people willing to work for 1.5 cents, despite that wage not allowing them to feed their families etc.

The actual war that is brewing is an ideological culture war, that transcends any class. Right vs left. A civil war is brewing in the USA, that will see the lower class fighting amongst themselves as the elite fly off to some private Island and wait it out.

 

[Cius]

Listened to an interview with Dan Carlin last week with some other presenter on youtube (sorry, link blocked at work) and they discussed this a bit. It seems going back in history most people agree in the absence of a major crises or event the USA actually drifts apart. However in a crises it galvanizes. This is due to how vastly different the people of the deep south are to say people from California or NY. Anyways, the powers that be will trigger that event when it suits them I recon. What will be different this time though is that people are so much more cynical and now look for the false flag in the operation rather than blindly accept things. I predict rough times ahead for the USA and the world.

 

[Wut]

Kill off the middle class and top class and take all their assets and money. Nationalize everything. Expropriate everything. Kill off all methods of communications and the Internet. Pay every man, woman and child $1 a month. Problem solved. Equality achieved.

Pay?!?! 'Tsek with your capitalist views...