Comac rolls out first nose section for C919 airliner

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The nose part of the first model of China’s self-designed large passenger jetliner C919 has rolled off the production line in Chengdu, representing a significant advance in the plane’s development.

The first forebody part of the plane was completed two months ago, and final assembly of the plane is expected later this year. It will seat up to 180 passengers, with a flying range of up to 5,500 kilometers. The aircraft’s manufacturer, The Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, says that it has secured 400 orders from 16 customers.

The narrow-bodied C919 is set to become the largest airliner designed and built in China. It is a major part of China’s focus on entering the global aircraft market dominated by Boeing and Airbus.

http://english.cntv.cn/2014/07/31/VIDE1406782442133641.shtml
 
Decent flying range for their domestic travel. Looks like decent interest too.

OT, the idea of flying in some with a label of "Made in China" is a little off putting.
 
Is China’s State-Owned Aircraft Manufacturing Company A Threat to Boeing?

You may wear Chinese-made shirts and not even notice, so will you someday be flying aboard a Chinese-made passenger plane?

The potential threat of China’s commercial aviation sector to American manufacturing – and especially to Boeing — was one focus Thursday of a hearing of the Senate Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security.

Displaying a photo of a C919 made by China’s state-owned aircraft company, COMAC, Sen. Mark S. Kirk, R- Ill., told the subcommittee, “This is a competitor to the [Boeing] 737…. We want to make sure that just as this [C919] aircraft hits the market as we expect in 2018, that we have an Export-Import Bank to finance sales of U.S. aircraft overseas.”

The charter for the Export-Import Bank expires next month and it faces opposition from fiscal conservatives, especially among House Republicans.

Kirk added that when a passenger boards a flight today on United Airlines or American Airlines, “you’re overwhelmingly likely to fly a USA aircraft. We want to make sure that you’re not flying China in future days.”

Subcommittee chair Sen. Maria Cantwell, D- Wash., said “because of the massive resources required to develop, produce, and market commercial airplanes, when we talk about aviation, we are often not talking about companies, as far as competition, but sometimes talking about actual countries.”

China and Russia are working “to develop a wide-body plane intended to compete on a global scale,” she said.

The ranking Republican on the subcommittee Sen. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire said “if their milk is an indication, I don’t want to fly in a Chinese plane”—a reference to Chinese scandals over adulterated milk and infant formula.

Offering a more guarded view of potential competition from China was economist Keith Crane, director of the Environment, Energy, and Economic Development Program at the RAND Corporation.

Crane said in his testimony that “by the time COMAC hits full production, the C919 will be technologically outdated compared to Airbus’s and Boeing’s new models, the A320neo and 737 Max, respectively.”

Most aviation experts, he said, believe that COMAC “will not truly be able to break into the international commercial aircraft market until it manufactures its next aircraft, the C929, following the C919 and quite possibly, not even then.”

To develop the C929, COMAC will Chinese government subsidies for “a relatively long period of time.”

But Crane added that one market where China is likely to be more successful is in smaller planes for general aviation.

He noted that a Chinese state-owned enterprise has acquired Cirrus, a U.S. manufacturer, and has signed a joint venture agreement with Cessna to assemble the Cessna Citation model in

http://blogs.rollcall.com/the-conta...anufacturing-company-a-threat-to-boeing/?dcz=
 
To be honest - pictures of crash test dummies being removed in pieces from the first Chinese Euro NCAP submission comes to mind.

This - if the Chinese are battling to build decent cars, I'd steer clear from a Chinese built aircraft for a while until it can prove itself.

Also remember that most commercial aircraft has a service lifespan of 20+ years. It would be interesting so see how long these airframes last.
 
This - if the Chinese are battling to build decent cars, I'd steer clear from a Chinese built aircraft for a while until it can prove itself.

Also remember that most commercial aircraft has a service lifespan of 20+ years. It would be interesting so see how long these airframes last.

A while back I visited some of the factories that are making the parts for this. They were properly up to western standards and also made parts for Airbus and Boeing. This would mean that they are used to the requirements for certification. There is even a chance that some forum members have unknowingly already had first hand exposure to their handiwork on flights.
 
A while back I visited some of the factories that are making the parts for this. They were properly up to western standards and also made parts for Airbus and Boeing. This would mean that they are used to the requirements for certification. There is even a chance that some forum members have unknowingly already had first hand exposure to their handiwork on flights.

Many aircraft parts are manufactured in China under strict control from Boeing or Airbus, but designed and tested in Europe or the USA with a flight legacy close to 100 years.
 
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Many aircraft parts are manufactured in China under strict control from Beoing or Airbus, but designed and tested in Europe or the USA with a flight legacy close to 100 years.

The same testing procedures will apply to Comac if they want their C919 to be certified to fly in American and EU airspace.
 
This will be the interesting test. :D

Yip. If they want their airliners to have the potential of being bought by international airlines, then it will have to be certified by American and EU bodies. In the US it is the FAA, not sure what the European body is called. GECAS (General Electric leasing services) in the US have orders for this airliner iirc, so they will definitely have to be tested and certified by the FAA
 
Well, a lot of us have flown on Embraer planes, which are Brazilian. Actually flown twice on one of these and found the comfort much better than Boeing or Airbus.

The Chinese need to ensure that the build and design quality is there right from the beginning, or after a couple of incidents any plane from China, even from a different company will fail to join the mainstream, and be forever delegated to the Cargo sector...... Much like the Russian planes have been.
 
China to launch test flights for C919 plane this year

Feb 23 (Reuters) - State-owned Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) has completed the basic assembly of its medium-range C919 large passenger aircraft and is expected to launch test flights this year, the official Xinhua news agency reported on Monday.

It said COMAC, which is touting the aircraft as China's answer to passenger planes from Boeing Co and Airbus Group NV, had secured 450 orders from 18 customers. The agency did not give further details and COMAC executives were not immediately available for comment during the Lunar New Year holiday.

China is keen to develop a successful commercial aircraft to prove it can match the United States and Europe. But it has been held back by inexperience, a shortage of local aerospace design and engineering talent, as well as a lack of home-grown companies with the technology to help drive the project.

Airbus has forecast China's domestic aviation market to become the world's biggest in the next decade.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/23/china-airplane-idUSL4N0VX19H20150223
 
The airframe is now almost complete, with the wings and tail joined to the fuselage. Comac has secured 450 commitments for the aircraft so far.

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The airframe is now almost complete, with the wings and tail joined to the fuselage. Comac has secured 450 commitments for the aircraft so far.

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Will be interesting to see this one when complete. I did read though that compared to Airbus, Boeing and Bomardier, the C919 uses ancient tech though. Not sure how accurate this is. They will definately have to compete on price.
 
If their cars are anything to go by, there is no chance on earth I will get into any of their planes.
 
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