Companies Shift profits: Gordhan

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Too many big companies are shifting their profit centres to parts of the world where they can avoid paying tax, Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan said on Tuesday.

He told Parliament's standing committee on finance he had encountered a growing optimism around the world when it came to South Africa and the continent as a whole.

"That optimism is about new resource discoveries. It's about the revenue from those resources being used in a responsible way," Gordhan said.

The "resource boom" was leading to a new fiscal base for many countries to work from. Multi-national companies were asking Africa to build fiscal capacity.

"At the same time these very businesses are the ones that participate in... tax avoidance, which undermines the fiscus as well."

Gordhan warned against negative messages from opposition parties, analysts, and the media emerging from within South Africa.

"There are so many good things happening, but the narrative being told is a negative one."

He suggested "changing the South African narrative" to portraying the country as a great investment destination.

Gordhan said he had spent the past few months selling South Africa as a favourable investment destination, and had received positive feedback.

"If we compare ourselves to certain parts of the world where you have gunfights taking place all over the show, shooting taking place all over the show, incursions taking place all over the show, we don't have that in South Africa."

Gordhan called on opposition parties to play their role and not add to perceptions that were increasingly being viewed as fact.

"We've got to do a lot more, despite our political differences, and the fact that there's an election coming, to demonstrate that we as South Africans have confidence in our ability to take this economy onto a new trajectory," he said.

"We can speak a language that on the one hand allows us to debate our different views, but on the other hand projects a national positive narrative."


Source : Sapa /cp/hdw/th/dd
Date : 14 May 2013 12:28
 
No Mr Gordon. They are shifting it away from SA Labour. Unions and strikes.
 
I find this kind of thing ironic. They claim to be business friendly but the majority of senior ANC officials where first trade unionists and their language in speeches etc they still talk about big business and business owners as the enemy rather than the people we should most celebrate.
 
Too many big companies are shifting their profit centres to parts of the world where they can avoid paying tax, Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan said on Tuesday.

He told Parliament's standing committee on finance he had encountered a growing optimism around the world when it came to South Africa and the continent as a whole.

"That optimism is about new resource discoveries. It's about the revenue from those resources being used in a responsible way," Gordhan said.

The "resource boom" was leading to a new fiscal base for many countries to work from. Multi-national companies were asking Africa to build fiscal capacity.

"At the same time these very businesses are the ones that participate in... tax avoidance, which undermines the fiscus as well."

Gordhan warned against negative messages from opposition parties, analysts, and the media emerging from within South Africa.

"There are so many good things happening, but the narrative being told is a negative one."

He suggested "changing the South African narrative" to portraying the country as a great investment destination.

Gordhan said he had spent the past few months selling South Africa as a favourable investment destination, and had received positive feedback.

"If we compare ourselves to certain parts of the world where you have gunfights taking place all over the show, shooting taking place all over the show, incursions taking place all over the show, we don't have that in South Africa."

Gordhan called on opposition parties to play their role and not add to perceptions that were increasingly being viewed as fact.

"We've got to do a lot more, despite our political differences, and the fact that there's an election coming, to demonstrate that we as South Africans have confidence in our ability to take this economy onto a new trajectory," he said.

"We can speak a language that on the one hand allows us to debate our different views, but on the other hand projects a national positive narrative."


Source : Sapa /cp/hdw/th/dd
Date : 14 May 2013 12:28


I seldom agree with him but this time I totally do. Many companies around the world are doing this. They are like parasites on our economies. Bloody leeches. We all have to pay our fair share of tax and these companies are avoiding paying their fair share.

If you are a tax payer and you fairly pay your taxes, this should upset you. This is the ultra wealthy not paying their fair share towards our country.
 
Maybe Gordhan should consider a business friendly tax regime where companies will shift their profits to SA.
 
Cross border taxes are a complicated issue which needs more solutions and less platitudes.

Gordhan, it would probably be best not to talk about violence when trying to sell South Africa as your statements make it seem like you have no idea what is going on in your country.
 
Maybe Gordhan should consider a business friendly tax regime where companies will shift their profits to SA.

thinking the exact same. We just chase away everyone (with our politics, taxes etc)... why not attract...
 
Gordhan said:
"That optimism is about new resource discoveries. It's about the revenue from those resources being used in a responsible way," Gordhan said.

The "resource boom" was leading to a new fiscal base for many countries to work from. Multi-national companies were asking Africa to build fiscal capacity.

The new resource discoveries seem to be a rest of Africa thing rather than a South African. Our mining operation appear to slowing rather than expanding.
 
Seems some people in this thread pay their fair share of taxes and what makes them so generous is that they dont mind the ultra wealthy (who have more money than them) to not pay their fair share of taxes. They make excuses for them. So generous.
 
The new resource discoveries seem to be a rest of Africa thing rather than a South African. Our mining operation appear to slowing rather than expanding.

Are they not talking about things like fracking in the Karoo?
 
This from a man who said 'Rooting out corruption requires collective effort from all of us' with a straight face in Parliament .. in front of Zuma.

And you wanna take anything he says serious?
Seriously?
 
Sure, that's why companies don't want to invest in SA anymore, the taxes (which has never bothered them before). It's got nothing to do with onerous labour laws, irresponsible statements by insane politicians, and the governent threatening to steal land and other assests from its rightful owners whilst refusing to deal with corrupt officials. It's all about the tax.
 
Sure, that's why companies don't want to invest in SA anymore, the taxes (which has never bothered them before). It's got nothing to do with onerous labour laws, irresponsible statements by insane politicians, and the governent threatening to steal land and other assests from its rightful owners whilst refusing to deal with corrupt officials. It's all about the tax.

nope none of that, or handing over ownership to a cadre, either
 
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