Competition from Sentech in November

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If you can wait, Sentech will have an affordable wireless offering at 512K in compeition to Telkom.
 
Not to be negative but I fear the hardware expenses will be painfull, even if it is a better service.
 
i promise to read the fine prints before even considering it....ive leanrt so far

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Thanks for the offer. Before taking too great steps however, we should consider the following:

Business is about making money, and at the moment telkom is making piles of it by ripping off its customers.
We have to make sure that Sentech is not mainly or partly owned by Telkom itself, like in the Cellphone market Vodacom is partly owned by Telkom. This will greatly influence any prices and future increases in pricing.

What i can truly not understand is this. Why can Telkom not just deliver a good service and they will in future reap the fruits of it?
Why do they have to chase their customers away just before (they know) a new competitor steps into the market?

Could it be that they know they will benefit either way?
 
Telkom is the majority share holders in Vodacom.....

Wireless Connectivity is currently illegal, why do you think megawan no longer exsists, telkom has so much to protect them in this market.. so if you get the wireless internet, you could find yourself with very expensive equipment lying around in the cupboard when they are shut down...

Bullstein, what exactly is wrong with vodacom?
 
How can wireless be illegal? Sentech seems to be allowed to use it, as stated on their website.
 
Vodacom itself is fine. I merely used it as an example of telkom's spread out influence. Althought i must say that vodacom is the most expensive cellular provider anyway - i know because i am with vodacom myself.

But let us not get off the point here.

What i tried to explain was that telkom has a monopoly over the market, and how do we know that telkom and sentech or whatever will not work together in ripping off the market?
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Chubs</i>
<br />How can wireless be illegal? Sentech seems to be allowed to use it, as stated on their website.
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Sentech have been awarded the lisences necessary to provide wireless internet. Other companies operate in what is known as a legal grey area and are taking their chances by providing such a service.
 
[:0]<font face="Arial"></font id="Arial">I fear that basic business logic dictates that a second operator only have to improve on the price slightly to make an impact into the market. I fear a R10 cut in the price will be sufficient for the new operator to win market share. The only way we will ever be on the winning side is to have a truly open market with 10 or more ADSL bandwidth suppliers. The fact is that South African consumers are used to poor service. I have serious doubts that the new operator will have our interests in mind when they setup their business plans. I am sure that we will have the same problem as they had in the UK when the market was opened to other telecom’s companies. British Telecom lost a lot of client but in a matter of months the majority went back to the company they loathed because the service at the new company was not better and the expectations of the public was not met. At least there is hope for us because that is not the case in the UK now. But we have to wait a good few years.

Years that will put us further behind the developed world.


All hail to the King

IpX
 
Don't hold your breath on Sentechs being competition to Telkom. I got this off the Sentech website and it is a little disturbing.

'Sentech is a commercially operated, state-owned enterprise...'

So, anyone wondering how they got a licence, there it is, state owned.
 
<i>Originally posted by MercuryStorm</i>
<br />Telkom is the majority share holders in Vodacom.....

Wireless Connectivity is currently illegal, why do you think megawan no longer exsists, telkom has so much to protect them in this market.. so if you get the wireless internet, you could find yourself with very expensive equipment lying around in the cupboard when they are shut down...

Lol go check out wisp.co.za.. they have been around for a long time and they are busy covering large areas in gauteng..now i wonder why have telkom not shut them down yet?
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I spoke to the guys at Wisp a while back. They told me they are operating in a legal 'grey area' of the wireless legislation and that they carry all the risk of being prosecuted on behalf of their clients. Apparantly the legislation on wireless is not very clear as to what is considered illegal. They are very doubtful as to whether Telkom will try to take them to court.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by martin</i>
<br />I spoke to the guys at Wisp a while back. They told me they are operating in a legal 'grey area' of the wireless legislation and that they carry all the risk of being prosecuted on behalf of their clients. Apparantly the legislation on wireless is not very clear as to what is considered illegal. They are very doubtful as to whether Telkom will try to take them to court.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> AAH i see.....
 
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news and I hope that I'm wrong, but the way I see it is that if Sentech will be buying bandwidth from Telkom we'll be back to square 1.

Hoping I'm wrong.
 
This is what I know.

WISP and Megawan (now gone) is operating in a grey area (as stated) because of the frequency they use. That frequency only allows them to operate with Line-Of-Sight capibility and is in most cases around 8km radius of their "radio" sites.

Sentech will operate on cellphone frequencies, which is totally legal, they will utilize already existing cellphone towers (which means their roll-out is already basically complete) and the bandwidth would probably come from UUNET. (This is from the Computer Faire at Sandton City earlier this year)

Now, I may be mistaken about the company name, I'm not too sure that it is Sentech offering this, but I personally saw the speeds they have and the cool looking wireless modem (USB) [:D]

All I know is I'm waiting for them to contact me with more technical data.... like I said, this is what I know
 
Sounds interesting. I never knew they would be using cellphone frequencies, but it makes sense in terms of infrastructure.
 
Ok so sentech is a state owned enterprise with the only licence to distribute wireless in the contry. Sounds a bit dodgy to me.

Given the states previace record when it comes to these matters i would not hold my breath.

Does anyone know if any of the cell providers have any plans to unroll wireless in a similar sort of way???
 
I know UUNet is planning to launch wireless ADSL. Got the info from them @ the Comp Faire earlier this year....

"The Great Deregulation War has begun!"
 
You do not get wireless ADSL.

ADSL stands for asynchronous digital subscriber LINE.

Wireless is transmitted over radio waves.

You do get wireless broadband, but no such thing as wireless ADSL exists.
 
louiss - quite right - sorry my mistake - I should have said a "wireless broadband solution"

"The Great Deregulation War has begun!"
 
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