Confused ISDN user

Mux

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I am confused. I was very serious about getting ADSL. It really do sound so misleadingly attractive…..until I visited MyADSL (the people I asked at the ISP recommended me to visit this site first before making the switch.)
I must have read about every post on this board the past week. All I can say is ‘OUCH’.
When I read the Telkom site and some ISP’s sites regarding ADSL, they all seem to talk about SPEED and aimed at the SERIOUS Internet user.
Now let me try and understand what is meant by FAST.
The word fast is used in 2 ways:
1. To indicate Latency/Ping time. A typical Modem, if I can remember that far back, is in excess of 100ms to your first point of connection. An ISDN adapter is about 30ms.
2. The amount of data that can be transported in a given time period. This is more frequently referred to as Bandwidth.

What I can’t understand is, Why in the world you would want to transfer data ‘fast’ (like in bandwidth) if you limit how much you may transfer? Duh? Isn’t it like making your passenger bus faster and carry more people but put a motorbike size fuel tank in? You will sure drive faster than every other bus on the highway, but wait…..you to exit at each off-ramp…to FILL up…and it takes hours to fill the tank…..then you may join the highway traffic again.
Surely, it’s the SERIOUS web-surfer that is prepared to fork out those extra hard-earned cash to move to ADSL. They are the one’s that explore and development the new frontiers, pushing the envelope and resulting in progress for all. If it weren’t for the Online games and the variety, other than the browser and e-mail, a big portion of the Internet access would have died by now.
So, if I was a ‘good boy’ and only used 1.5GB last month, and now this month I need to use 4.5GB, it’s tough-luck sucker?
Why would the P2P and game ports be ‘shaped’? Surely, those are the people that NEED ADSL.
To get back to the point of SPEED. Now what does speed help if I have only a few pages to browse and an e-mail or 2 to read per day to avoid the 3GB cap?
Heck, I wouldn’t even notice the difference. The best speed would be ISDN in that case.
Oh what the heck, this message will be right over their heads anyway.

The bottom-line for preventing to make the switch for now is:
· The dreaded 3GB cap (at a 5-6GB cap I might reconsider – preferably a 30GB if they need to set one.)
· Network shaping. Why must I be penalised for not using the HTTP ports?

Got to stick with my 128k ISDN for now (to be honest, most of the time I only dial in at 64k).
I will keep visiting this board and do feel for all you great people out there doing the groundbreaking work in hopefully, eventually cause a better, more usable service for us.
Ps. Check the recommendation of spell checking Telkom[:o)].
 
To put it bluntly, ADSL here sucks for P2P and overseas gaming.

However if you game online locally it's fast. Web browsing is a lot faster than with ISDN, more so locally than overseas, but still noticeably better.

Downloads over web or FTP are up to seven times faster than ISDN 64K. You can get a consistent 52kbytes/sec download from many sites even if you have to use a download manager like GetRight. Put another way, you can download up to around 182MB per hour - that's great for getting that gigantic new MS service pack.

Although the overseas latency is very high, transfer speeds are usually quite good.

Finally you can connect any time of the day without worrying about being in R7 callmore time.

It's your call, but if P2P and overseas gaming are not your thing I believe that ADSL beats ISDN hands down. I've used ISDN at the office for around four years and for two years at home by the way.
 
Hi Mux, it seems this board is no longer just empowering ADSL users, but also helping the public with making more informed decisions. By the way, I like your bus analogy!
 
Hi,

local seems to be Ok for many apps.

But I know for sure that you can't trust ADSL for International POP3 (Local is Ok)

People also reported problems with VPN's and with PC-Anywhere.

In short: If you you are a heavy Internet user sticking to the basics such as HTTP you should not have problems. E-Mail is already a problem the moment you hit the Telkom international router - even when you are not capped.


Adsl is a "better than anything else" offering from Telkom in any applications. But is is a a mangled degraded offering of an excellent tool.

What we require is a World Class service at world competive rates.
 
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