Considering iBurst, advice please.

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Hi,

I recently am running off 128k ISDN line, and i am considering purchasing iBurst in the New Year (January 2005). Please share your personal views and recommendations on the product, as it would be much appreciated.

Thanx. :)
 
Are you a online gamer? What do you mainly use your connection for?
 
Speed is decent for gaming, but isdn is still faster. Http and ftp is fast on iburst (30 - 80 KB/s on dl's), p2p has been blocked and I am sure a lot of other services as well, heavily shaped recently. If you wanna browse and play the odd game and read e-mail, I can think of worse deals than Iburst.
 
Well basically i will be using it for home use..

Gaming, Emailing, p2p'ing, ftp'ing and http'ing... The fact that it is mobile/wireless makes me want the product more.

aborg mentioned above that p2p is blocked with iBurst, is this true?

I am quite in need of a faster internet connection, and I cannot have ADSL as Telskum do no offer it in my area, Kyalami.. :mad: It seems as my only option is to move to iBurst, that is why I need some reliable advice.

Thanx! :)
 
Here is my 2 pence worth

limnos said:
...I cannot have ADSL as Telskum do no offer it in my area, Kyalami.. :mad: It seems as my only option is to move to iBurst, that is why I need some reliable advice...
limnos, you have answered your own question: ADSL is not available in your area (or you are too far from the exchange for the 5.xKm Telkom copper cable limit- altho someone else on the forum mentioned they have ADSL & are 8Km away from the exchange, you might want to check that out before deciding to get iBurst).

MyWireless, like I said before, is something I wouldn't even touch if I had a haemorrhagic viral disease, for fear of catching something worse. MW is also not an option if you want to be able to do all the things you mentioned- before your retirement.

Vodacon's 3G1Gig offering is only for the insanely rich, and 3G coverage is not widespread, so that excludes that, especially if you want to try P2P & gaming on a 1Gig cap.

There is another potential option looming as early as February: WISP legalisation. But, I don't know that it will happen due to ICASA licensing issues of VANS.

iBurst P2P: until recently I have seen no need for P2P on iBurst bcos most of my downloads have been really fast, but remember that has been uncapped, unshaped, unprioritised (or so it seemed to me). Like I said: until recently. Now I'm not sure anymore bcos I personally have been experiencing some really strange (WBS) iBurst behaviour lately, which has caused me to believe that WBS are at the very least testing a capping implementation, no way to know bcos WBS are neither confirming nor denying. One thing is however likely: the 3Gig cap should kick in when iBurst officially launches in April 2005. If that happens, it is likely to be worse than ADSL bcos you will be capped locally & limited to 64K (contention ratio is unknown/undecided).

iBurst Gaming: I am not a gamer, but I can tell you that the weird iBurst problems have included high latency. There is an iBurst gaming thread somewhere on the forum, best to ask people to post their pings against the servers you cannot live without.

If all you ever wanted to do is browsing, send & receive email, moderate downloads & uploads, and you had R599, R679 or R699 to spend per month, as well as coverage in your area, then iBurst would do the trick.

The questions you need to ask yourself are:
  1. Will iBurst cost you more per month than ISDN with InfinitCall?
  2. Will you be able to live with your connection being limited to 64K (unknown contention) after your 3Gig cap has been reached?
On the issue of going for a 24 month contract, or alternatively buying the proprietary hardware and going for a 30 day notice contract: your choice.

If I had the money right now, I would buy my UTD & switch to 30dn, but that's bcos I believe iBurst is better than MW (the Sentech implementation of IPWireless) as a technology, and I *hope* that I would be able to sell my UTD to some poor shmuck if I had to.

Hope that helps.
 
Limnos, my honest recommendation ( and what I have been telling all my friends ) is to wait until they actually go live in April. Things could just change too much when they decide to start using a cap / port shaping. However, in spite of my misgivings, three of my friends have signed up and they are extremely happy so far. One is using it for pure gaming, the other for business and the last guy is a leecher of note.

Personally I had to get out of mywireless and Iburst kicks wireless' ass so hard that it is going to be difficult not to satisfy me. I am very happy with the product as it is right now, and I really like the company and the way they handle their customers. This is what Sentech got wrong... you are always willing to cut the guys more slack if they are not treating you like an idiot.

Anyway, if you can bear the wait, hold out for 3 months before you make your decision and then check back here to see how things are going.
 
The proof will be when the network gets populated in April 2k5. If WBS can keep local ping times where they are now I will be very impressed.

I've had no feedback from any other Iburst users on p2p but from my experience I can't use it at all. Anybody else?

I am stuck with them for now - I will not change except if WBS offers other packages at some stage. I've tried everything else and so far this is the best of the lot FOR NOW....
 
My P2P is fine... DC++ flies and bittorrent goes to about 40kB. I don't really use anything else.
 
aborg, are you running XP SP2? If so, that could be your problem.

I've been using SoulSeek & Bittorent and they worked fine.IRC XDCC's also fast.
 
I am on SP2 - the thing is it has been fine up and till 23rd Dec after that it just stopped working.
 
I'm with aborg here. I have XP SP2 as well, and up until a while ago my p2p was running fine, then it slowed down to a grinding halt. My downloads don't even start on it now.

I was grumpy two days ago, 'cos I wanted to download the patch for Vampire: Bloodlines via BT, and I couldn't, 'cos it's useless...

Very irritating...

*dons fireproof underwear*

That said, I'd rather have shaped traffic than a cap, to be perfectly honest. 'long as my HTTP downloads are nice and fast, I'm not too phased about p2p and BT

*waits for flames to blow over and removes underwear... asbestos chafes*

Unsphaped, uncapped would be great, but we all know that ain't gonna happen...
 
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Bishop my SP2 is patched - I do not experience event 4226 in regards to consecutive tcp/ip connections, checked it again today - it must be something else. Which tower are you on?
 
TheYak, just wondering if like myself & aborg, you are connecting to the Bryanston basestation? (i.e. what general area are you in?)
 
I'll venture my extremely undervalued opinion in this thread.

ADSL is still the best, cheapest and most reliable connectivity in this country. Even with caps, crappy support centres et al. Telkom's ADSL rules the pack.

If you're a serious internet user you cannot go wrong with it.
 
Was told quite clearly that P2P is being 'shaped' - resulting in a 'first come first served' ability of customers to use P2P at all. Apparently some people (ahem) have been downloading vast quantities of files, which IBurst cant tolerate. So no P2P at all, unless you're one of the few who manages to get the b/w for it, however they've set it up.
 
Rodent, you are advising limnos to move closer to an adsl capable exchange then?

Having volunteered myself as the ritual sacrifice, can I just say that I agree with TheRoDent where HomeDSL384 is concerned, but not ADSL512.
 
Thx, Bishop I'm in North Riding and basically have LOS of the Bryanston tower. On the issue of recommending a service - as far as pings, reliability, caps go ADSL might be better and I would really like ADSL for myself but my previous experiences with Hellkom has been so bad in terms of service - compares to sintech - that I promise myself to support them as little as possible or never.
 
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