Contract upgrade and device charges

Shiraz

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Hi Guys

I upgraded my 2 contracts last month (month 22 of the old contracts). From the first of this month i have been battling to have 2 issues resolved. i logged a query on the first and its still unresolved. Problems were incorrect data allocated for this month and the device fee. To date this problems are not yet resolved and after numerous calls and mail to 8ta today i have finally referred the matter to ICASA and the National consumer council.

ok that was my problem - but my main reason for the post is the above have got me thinking -How many other people are being scammed by their network operators?

When you sign a contract where a portion of the device fee is only subsidized... like i did for the iPhone 5, the balance of the device fee is added to the contract. for example: normal contract "A" cost is say R100. You can get an iphone on contract "A" for R199 per month. That is cos R99 per month is the device fee you paying over 24 months. no Argument with that -you want the device - pay the fee.

Now. when you upgrade like i did in month 22 - you should not pay the device fee until month 25 (month 1 of the new contract) otherwise you will be paying the device fee for 26 month instead of 24. The network operator is charging 2 months extra on the device fee when the contract is agreed on 24 months. This is if i am not mistaken illegal as per the CPA as you are being falsely overcharged without your knowledge or consent. In the example above it is R99 x 2 months which does not seem like a lot, but in my case it was for 2 iPhone 64Gb contracts - which adds up to well over R1000. let me see a network that will find it ok to under charge by R1000 - so why should it be OK to overcharge me?

Also -what happens after 24 months and you do not sign a new contract but continue on a month to month basis- does the network operator reduce the subscription by removing the device charge?

just some food for thought
 
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azbob

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Still processing your device fee argument...

Surely if you upgrade in month 22, you still have to pay the device fee of your previous phone for months 23 and 24. Why are you skipping them and going to month 25? :confused: month 25 should be when the device fee for the upgrade begins.
 
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As I see it, you cannot wait for month 25, so you want the early route, instead of having to get new contracts and phone numbers.

8ta says that's fine, we'll give you the two phones earlier, but you gonna start paying for it and the current contract must be completed as well, as you owe them two months on that.

Your eagerness to get a new phone early is what is actually your downfall.
 

Shiraz

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yip - no doubt - if there was a device fee on the initial contract.... and if there was - then i agree i am liable for it..... but at the rate that it was agreedat. not the rate of the new device....

my first device was a stupid blackberry 8520 that i havent seen in over a year... so no there was no device fee, but if there was - say R100 then yes i am liable for the R200... but new device fee is R400 extra per month - why should i pay R800?
 

Shiraz

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I disagree KingRob... firstly 8ta called to offer me an upgrade... i didnt even know it was due at the time... secondly you overcharging for loyalty? I could have kept my number and even ported... these companies offer early upgrade to keep you from porting / moving by keeping you in a contract.... its done for eir good - not yours.

Anyway - i still feel its illegal... will wait to see if the consumer council or icasa agrees
 

azbob

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Maybe the R400 will only continue for 24 months after which you'll only pay the subscription for the next two months. Have you confirmed with them?
 

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Maybe the R400 device fee will only continue for 24 months after which you'll only pay the subscription for the next two months. Have you confirmed with them?
 

Shiraz

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i have called them over 10 times... someone is always coming back to me - they never do... i have gone to hello peter, got a cut and paste response last week from them that someone will call - never did.

Called some freak that claims to be a team leader but blatantly refused to give me contact details of his manager, and does not know who his manager reports to as "that is their heiracy which he is unaware of"

sent mail to social@8ta

no response... so that is why i went the icasa / consumer council route.... hopefully they would be able to get answers
 

Shiraz

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nope - had enough of them..... took them over a week to process my upgrade last month and get the line active - and they did that on the wrong contract.... .... went initially for the cheapest contract 16Gb iphone on contract 1.... eventually ended up with 64Gb iphone on contract 3....was so fed up that i gave up on even fighting that -just took the contract with the R160 increase per contract - and left it at that... now this month got 500mb of data short on each contract plus the device fee issue

amazing thing is i never had any problems with them in the 22 months before.... now it seems endless :(
 
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