Cop uses stun gun on granny

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Cop uses stun gun on granny
2009-06-11 06:59

Austin - A 72-year-old woman who refused to sign her speeding ticket got out of her truck and dared a deputy to shock her with a Taser.

So he did.

Video released by a Travis County Constable's Office shows Kathryn Winkfein hitting the ground and moaning while the shocks jolted through her body after the May 11 confrontation with Travis County Sheriff's Deputy Chris Bieze.

Winkfein was stopped for driving 96km/h in a 72km/h zone just west of Austin. A dashboard camera in the deputy's car shows the 1.5m Winkfein refusing to sign her speeding ticket, getting out of her white pickup truck and cursing at the deputy constable.

Bieze then pushes her to get her away from traffic.

"You're gonna shove a 72-year-old woman," Winkfein says angrily, standing inches from the deputy.

"If you don't step back, you're going to get Tased," Bieze says.

"Go ahead, Tase me," Winkfein says. "I dare you."

The video shows Bieze using the Taser and Winkfein hitting the ground and moaning in pain.

"Put your hands behind your back or you're going to be Tased again," Bieze yells, and then hits her with another jolt.

Travis County Sheriff Greg Hamilton, whose office does not oversee the constables, issued a statement on Wednesday saying:

"I do not personally agree with the actions of the deputy constable as they are shown in the video. When I look at the video I am in awe of what happened."

Winkfein was eventually charged with resisting arrest, a misdemeanour punishable by up to a year in jail and fines up to $4 000.

A telephone message left with Constable Sgt Maj Gary Griffin of the constable's office was not immediately returned on Wednesday. Telephone calls to a number listed for Kathryn Winkfein went unanswered.

Griffin has defended Bieze's actions and said that Winkfein was belligerent and difficult to handle.

- SAPA
http://www.news24.com/Content/World.../11-06-2009 06-06/Cop_uses_stun_gun_on_granny

Imagine this cop having to deal with a high school student. I hear that he goes on leave when the local bikers have a rally, as they scare the **** out of him.
 
Some Americans of that age don't look it. She could still have been a threat. No pictures to debate though.
 
Uh, oh.
He shouldn't have pushed her. She had also offered to sign it before he did that. If you overdo the authority bit, people get defiant and the situation quickly escalates.

That begs the question about how to deal with the uncompliant elderly in general. She could have been bruised or had a broken arm if he had touched her to effect the arrest. Maybe a short taser blast would be the preferable of the two.

What is obvious is that she was intent on using her age as a lever to get her way. She says "I'm 72" throughout the incident. Maybe this worked for her in the past when stopped by police.
 
The problem with Tazer/non-leathal methods is that cop are to loose with them and use them when not strictly necessary....

Taser's have lead to a large amount of deaths..

I am sure out policeman could have restrained the 72 old granny without that tazer.. if so he should be charged.
 
The problem with Tazer/non-leathal methods is that cop are to loose with them and use them when not strictly necessary....

Taser's have lead to a large amount of deaths..

I am sure out policeman could have restrained the 72 old granny without that tazer.. if so he should be charged.
I don't blame the Taser. There have been relatively few deaths and most of these have been blamed on pre-existing medical conditions.

In the UK, the Taser is used as a substitute for deadly force, with the same rules. Perhaps that's too strict. This officer knew he was being filmed, so I would blame training and procedures.
 
I agree with you Sackboy... I would not take my chances tazering a pensioner..

I think you UK has it right... Taser's should be a last resort.
 
We all have seen this one before, but it's still good.

Pocket Taser Stun Gun, a great gift for the wife.

A guy who purchased his lovely wife a pocket Taser for their anniversary
submitted this:

Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol &Pawn Shop that sparked my
interest.

The occasion was our 15th anniversary and I was looking for
a little something extra for my wife Julie..

What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized taser..

The effects of the taser were supposed to be short lived, with no


long-term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her
adequate time to retreat to safety....??
WAY TOO COOL!

Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home.

I loaded two AAA batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button.

Nothing!

I was disappointed.

I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND
pressed it against a metal surface at the same time; I'd get the blue
arc of electricity darting back and forth between the prongs.

AWESOME!!! Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Julie what that burn
spot is on the face of her microwave.

Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it
couldn't be all that bad with only two triple-A batteries, right?

There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently (trusting
little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking that I really
needed to try this thing out on a flesh &blood moving target..

I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a
second) and thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat.

But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself
against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as
advertised.

Am I wrong?

So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading
glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one
hand, and taser in another.

The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your
assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a
major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make
your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water Any burst
longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries.

All the while I'm looking at this little device measuring about 5 inches
long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference; pretty cute really and loaded
with two itsy, bitsy triple-A batteries) thinking to myself, 'no possible
way!'

What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best...?
I'm sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head cocked to one
side as to say, 'don't do it idiot,' reasoning that a one second
burst from such a tiny little ole thing couldn't hurt all that bad.

I decided to give myself a one second burst just for heck of it.

I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and . .

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION . .

WHAT THE F_ _K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pretty sure The Hulk ran in through the side door, picke d me
up in the recliner, then body slammed us both on the carpet, over and over
and over again.

I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position with tears in
my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be
found, with my left arm tucked under my body in the oddest position, and
tingling in my legs?

The cat was making meowing sounds I had never heard before, clinging to a
picture frame hanging above the fireplace, obviously in an attempt to
avoid getting slammed by my body flopping all over the living room.

Note: If you ever feel compelled to 'mug' yourself with a taser, one
note of caution: there is no such thing as a one second burst when you zap
yourself! You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from
your hand by a violent thrashing about on the floor..

A three second burst would be considered conservative?

*(^%#@, THAT HURT !!!

A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at
that point), I collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and
surveyed the landscape.

My bent reading glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace.

The recliner was upside down and about 8 feet or so from where it
originally was.

My triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching.

My face felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, and my bottom lip
weighed 88 lbs. I had no control over the drooling.
Apparently I cr_pp_d myself, but was too numb to know for sure and my
sense of smell was gone.

I saw a faint smoke cloud above my head which I believe came from my hair.

I'm still looking for my nuts and I'm offering a significant reward for
their safe return!!

P. S.

My wife loved the gift, and now regularly threatens me with it!B
 
If you read the full story there was a time period of around 5 minutes from the time he started warning her and the time he tasered her. She refused to sign the ticket and wanted to return to the vehicle and drive away.

During this time she was repeatedly warned to which her response was 'do it '.

The push was to get her off the roadside - I'm sure you've seen youtube clips of cops near misses from passing vehicles.

She broke the law - all she had to do was sign and nothing more would have happened.
 

After watching the video, she definitely deserved it.

She was very rude and uncooperative with the cop and he gave her 5 warnings before he tased her.
Strange how she denied resisting arrest or even arguing with the cop in the tv interview, saying it was all lies, before the video was released. But then when it was released she suddenly refused to speak to the media.

Guilty as charged.
 
How much does this gun cost? Could be usefull to end drunk jocks looking for fun? Flop fishy flop!

From R150-R300 for a regular heavy duty stun gun. I import stun guns from China and I tell you everyone should have one. Balstrome's story is a load of crap though. You can not zap yourself for more than a second and the couch is not going to go flying. Your muscles tense up and you are disabled almost instantly by the more powerful ones. I have tested many models up to 3 millio volts. They are really awesome things to have! Nobody will mess with you lol.
 
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