Correlation between C-section and Depression

[umamankandla]

So for those who want to blame their mothers for being at fault, here's your chance:

*winks really hard so that the trolls dont take it to seriously*

Depressive severity associated with cesarean section in... : Chinese Medical Journal

An abstract is unavailable.

journals.lww.com

above link suggests there is a link between depression in children cut out of the womb

The relation between cesarean birth and child cognitive development - PMC

This is the first detailed study of the relation between cesarean birth and child cognitive development. We measure differences in child cognitive performance at 4 to 9 years of age between cesarean-born and vaginally-born children (n = 3,666) ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

above link confirms correlation between cognitive development and children cut out of the womb

I make it sound more dramatic than it really is, or do I?

Who knew about this? Are there any women on here that had a c-section? Were you warned of all the risks beforehand? Did you know about this one?

** I am not sharing an article, I am trying to get an opinion on above two studies thus I am not making the header the same as the studies as there are two studies and I am sharing some knowledge - not fake pay per click advertised news - and I honestly want some feedback of who knew this and can some relate? **

 

[Sensorei]

And there is also a study to negate or oppose every clinical study out there done already. Quoting a study stands for very little and comes in very handy for confirmation bias.

Postnatal depression is common after natural births as well. The major issue is the change in your hormones and stress, caesarean vs natural birth imo.

 

[umamankandla]

And there is also a study to negate or oppose every clinical study out there done already. Quoting a study stands for very little and comes in very handy for confirmation bias.

Postnatal depression is common after natural births as well. The major issue is the change in your hormones and stress, caesarean vs natural birth imo.

You must have been cut out of the womb, thus your level of cognitive function and inability to read.

The studies refer to the effect on the children. No where did I refer to the common PD.

But thanks for your effort and for trying. Here is a participation trophy

 

[saor]

Isn't there also a chunk of data now showing how natural birth confers to the newborn the microbiome of the mother (as it passes through the birth canal etc.) which helps kickstart the population of the kids own gut? C-section bypasses all that, not sure what the downstream effects are though...been a while since I looked at it.

 

[umamankandla]

Isn't there also a chunk of data now showing how natural birth confers to the newborn the microbiome of the mother (as it passes through the birth canal etc.) which helps kickstart the population of the kids own gut? C-section bypasses all that, not sure what the downstream effects are though...been a while since I looked at it.

You are right.

I think this is mentioned in the second study in the OP and the second study also refers to another study that also mentions this.

 

[saor]

Ah .
Just looked at your link.

The direct association may occur through alterations to the infant’s gut microbiota. Unlike vaginally-born children whose gut is seeded by passing through the birth canal, the gut of cesarean-born children is seeded through contact with the mother’s skin and hospital surfaces. The result is long-term compositional differences in gut microbiota by mode of birth20–24, with differences observed up until age seven24.

 

[saor]

You are right.

I think this is mentioned in the second study in the OP and the second study also refers to another study that also mentions this.

Ja. Obviously there's times when a c-section is neccessary, but everything I've seen since we've come to learn more about the microbiome seems to indicate a natural birth is still the way to go. Nature's been doing it for ages, and us deciding to do it differently without a proper understanding of it's effects is extremely shortsighted. C-sections feels a bit like antibiotics at this point: Way over-prescribed.

 

[umamankandla]

Ja. Obviously there's times when a c-section is neccessary, but everything I've seen since we've come to learn more about the microbiome seems to indicate a natural birth is still the way to go. Nature's been doing it for ages, and us deciding to do it differently without a proper understanding of it's effects is extremely shortsighted. C-sections feels a bit like antibiotics at this point: Way over-prescribed.

Unfortunately at one stage it was a status symbol for some women to do this as it was a sign of money. Like a huge tattoo on ones stomach saying look I can afford medical care. This was the 80s and 90s.

 

[Gozado]

You must have been cut out of the womb, thus your level of cognitive function and inability to read.

The studies refer to the effect on the children. No where did I refer to the common PD.

But thanks for your effort and for trying. Here is a participation trophy

Levels of coginitive function and ability to read may or may not follow a certain trend for children (and into adulthood) born by C-section. However, no automatic causality can be deduced in every nor in any individual case. The expression "cut out of the womb" indicates a bias.

Besides, whatever affects the mother, including her overall experience during her pregnancy and giving birth, whether by natural birth or C-section, including the after-effects, one of which can (no matter the means of birth) sometimes be postnatal depression, necessarily affects the child.

 

[umamankandla]

Levels of coginitive function and ability to read may or may not follow a certain trend for children (and into adulthood) born by C-section. However, no automatic causality can be deduced in every nor in any individual case. The expression "cut out of the womb" indicates a bias.

Besides, whatever affects the mother, including her overall experience during her pregnancy and giving birth, whether by natural birth or C-section, including the after-effects, one of which can (no matter the means of birth) sometimes be postnatal depression, necessarily affects the child.

Also didn't read the studies, huh? You are taking my jabs of the sh!tty mothers too seriously.