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Having followed through with my own solar journey, I’m now looking at ways and means to get parents and in laws to be a bit more independent from the grid, but these full blown solutions are expensive.

I’ve therefore been looking at the luxpower SNA5000 and Growatt SPF5000es as inverters.

I understand that these cannot feed non-essentials. You’ll have to split the DB board appropriately and watch that the loads do not exceed 5kW.

My question: what is the scalability of these off grid solutions? They can blend AC and DC to meet demand. So in the case of the luxpower SNA5000 if a second one is added at a later stage in parallel, the full load can be added, as the total capacity would be 10kW and this at a cheaper price than a Sunsynk 8kW.

Besides not being able to feedback to the grid (which is not an issue), what other drawbacks would there be?

The other consideration is also to just have the LXP which can power non-essentials, so that excess solar can be utilised as opposed to the SNA where non-essentials would be fully grid dependent. LXP a bit more cost effective than Sunsynk/Deye.

Goals:
1) Load shedding relief
2) Reduce reliance on Eskom
3) Reduce Eskom bill, current usage +/- 400kWh
4) Ability to scale later on without replacing components

Options (all starting with 5kWh battery and roughly 3.4kWp array with exception of option 3):
1) Luxpower/Growatt 5kW off grid - con no solar to non-essentials, have to watch simultaneous loads
2) Sunsynk/Deye/Luxpower 5kW hybrid - con increased cost, have to watch simultaneous loads
3) Sunsynk/Deye 8kW - con, will mean solar panels get pushed out, not a viable option but putting it here
4) 2* parallel luxpower/Growatt off grid - increased cost from option 1 but can be done later, any other downside?
 
I have the Luxpower SNA5000, 14 x 445 JA Solar panels, and a 10KW Dyness Powerbox battery.

I run my pool pump, and geyser via a timer, all plugs and lights via the Luxpower, the only circuit not on the system is the electric oven and the microwave plug next to it. I have gas for cooking.

Geyser goes on 3 times a day, 4.30 am to 6 am pulls from the battery, 12.00 pm to 1 pm, and again 3.30 pm to 5 pm.
Pool in summer runs from 7.30 am to 4.30 pm, in winter it runs from 9 am to 3 pm
My domestic and the gardener do not work on the same days, and domestic knows to power on the dishwasher at 9.30 am, and she irons from 1 pm to 3.30 pm.

My daytime base load, with the pool and the geyser running uses about 4.3kw.

I'm in Johannesburg/City Power area, my usage pre this on City Power was 1000KWH per month on average, since installation my City Power is on average 270KWH, I've also changed to prepaid power with City Power.

The battery is important for me as I work from home.

I've set the inverter to switch back to City Power if the battery hits 40% basically to ensure if there is load shedding in the morning I still can work for a number of hours.

Normally the battery is fully charged between 11 am and 12 pm.

I do hit the quick charge button on the inverter app, if there are dark clouds above us in the morning, quick charge just charges the battery from the grid for 1 hour.

Overall I'm very happy with the system. The system allows me to pull about 5.2kw before it shuts down, it takes 5min to reset itself, the longest 5min of your life thinking you blew something, that has only happened to us three times in 16 months. The inverter allows up to 6kw of solar incoming.

I first installed the system with the 5.5kw Hubble battery pack, and it worked great, but 5.5kw doesn't give me peace of mind for having power in the morning if there is no grid power, as I couldn't wait for a 2nd Hubble battery pack I sold it and bought a Dyness Powerbox 10kw.
 
Thank you for the detailed response, this helps greatly!
Interesting that with careful management you even put the geyser on. Didn’t think of doing that, but with 5kW battery initially it wouldn’t be feasible but interesting if 10kWh is a go from the start, I think a similar setup could work.
 
I have the Luxpower SNA5000, 14 x 445 JA Solar panels, and a 10KW Dyness Powerbox battery.

I run my pool pump, and geyser via a timer, all plugs and lights via the Luxpower, the only circuit not on the system is the electric oven and the microwave plug next to it. I have gas for cooking.

Geyser goes on 3 times a day, 4.30 am to 6 am pulls from the battery, 12.00 pm to 1 pm, and again 3.30 pm to 5 pm.
Pool in summer runs from 7.30 am to 4.30 pm, in winter it runs from 9 am to 3 pm
My domestic and the gardener do not work on the same days, and domestic knows to power on the dishwasher at 9.30 am, and she irons from 1 pm to 3.30 pm.

My daytime base load, with the pool and the geyser running uses about 4.3kw.

I'm in Johannesburg/City Power area, my usage pre this on City Power was 1000KWH per month on average, since installation my City Power is on average 270KWH, I've also changed to prepaid power with City Power.

The battery is important for me as I work from home.

I've set the inverter to switch back to City Power if the battery hits 40% basically to ensure if there is load shedding in the morning I still can work for a number of hours.

Normally the battery is fully charged between 11 am and 12 pm.

I do hit the quick charge button on the inverter app, if there are dark clouds above us in the morning, quick charge just charges the battery from the grid for 1 hour.

Overall I'm very happy with the system. The system allows me to pull about 5.2kw before it shuts down, it takes 5min to reset itself, the longest 5min of your life thinking you blew something, that has only happened to us three times in 16 months. The inverter allows up to 6kw of solar incoming.

I first installed the system with the 5.5kw Hubble battery pack, and it worked great, but 5.5kw doesn't give me peace of mind for having power in the morning if there is no grid power, as I couldn't wait for a 2nd Hubble battery pack I sold it and bought a Dyness Powerbox 10kw.
Do you mind sharing you cost and which company installed it?
 
In total it cost me R155k, remember I installed Jan 2022. I used Power Solar Online https://www.powersolar.online/

I have nothing todo with them and no affiliation, except to say good things about them that is.

They were referred to me by a friend of mine, and they have since done an install for another friend as well.

It included COC certificates as well.
 
Forgot to say don't forget to add the system to your home insurance, it cost me R75 per month.
 
Solarway suppliers have this package deal at the moment.

Of course installation and CoC still needs to be added but seems to be a good starting point.
 
Solarway suppliers have this package deal at the moment.

Of course installation and CoC still needs to be added but seems to be a good starting point.
That's a very good price for that kit
 
Solarway suppliers have this package deal at the moment.

Of course installation and CoC still needs to be added but seems to be a good starting point.
Do they offer installations?
 
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