cPanel / WHM licensing - VPS or Dedicated - Whats the difference

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I've got a Linux dedicated server in a colocation environment, I've tested it and works well. If I want to open this up to the public and install WHM/cPanel, so that every domain has access to cpanel. Should i get the VPS license or the Dedicated license?

Slightly confused.
 
I've got a Linux dedicated server in a colocation environment, I've tested it and works well. If I want to open this up to the public and install WHM/cPanel, so that every domain has access to cpanel. Should i get the VPS license or the Dedicated license?

Slightly confused.

Dedicated.
 
I've got a Linux dedicated server in a colocation environment, I've tested it and works well. If I want to open this up to the public and install WHM/cPanel, so that every domain has access to cpanel. Should i get the VPS license or the Dedicated license?

Slightly confused.

Pretty sure the only difference is price.

You could take your dedicated server, load Proxmox or VMWare ESXI - then you spin up a VM and use a VPS license for cPanel - you'll save a ****load and make backups easier too.
 
Pretty sure the only difference is price.

You could take your dedicated server, load Proxmox or VMWare ESXI - then you spin up a VM and use a VPS license for cPanel - you'll save a ****load and make backups easier too.

That is probably the best move if you want cheaper licensing. Although I don't see how backups would be easier, you'd be backing up to the same machine.
 
That is probably the best move if you want cheaper licensing. Although I don't see how backups would be easier, you'd be backing up to the same machine.

* VPS - Backup 1 file (VMDK or whatever platform you use)
* DEDI - Backup MANY files. Restore's are harder to as you need the underlying OS to be setup the same.
* VPS - Restore BACKUP to ANY HARDWARE
* DEDI - Deploy full backup to SPECIFIC HARDWARE.
* VPS - Allocate more resources as needed by simply moving to a new host.
* DEDI - Buy a new server and rebuild your full stack.

Then there's cheap licensing to boot. It's a no brainer really.
 
* VPS - Backup 1 file (VMDK or whatever platform you use)
* DEDI - Backup MANY files. Restore's are harder to as you need the underlying OS to be setup the same.
* VPS - Restore BACKUP to ANY HARDWARE
* DEDI - Deploy full backup to SPECIFIC HARDWARE.
* VPS - Allocate more resources as needed by simply moving to a new host.
* DEDI - Buy a new server and rebuild your full stack.

Then there's cheap licensing to boot. It's a no brainer really.

Agree with you. VPS would be a better option, plus scalability wise. I see what you mean about the backups. One should still have a second machine or an offsite location for the backups either way, and depends on the hypervisor employed as retrieving items from a vhdx that contains ext file systems on a Windows machine can be problematic.
 
Thanks guys, went with dedicated anyway

Agree with you. VPS would be a better option, plus scalability wise. I see what you mean about the backups. One should still have a second machine or an offsite location for the backups either way, and depends on the hypervisor employed as retrieving items from a vhdx that contains ext file systems on a Windows machine can be problematic.
 
Did you come right with this? We've been working really hard at making our custom control panel publicly available. We've previously used it only for our own hosting servers.

At the moment we're looking to give away 5 licenses provided that the user's are prepared to give us feedback. The product works well for most use cases. If you're interested in getting a free license give me a shout.

It only runs on Centos 6 at the moment. The Centos 7 version is nearing completion.
 
Hi there. We've got Centos 7 installed and already bought a dedicated license. Do you have a website for this control panel? Whats the pricing going to be like, after the trial, or once you release?

Did you come right with this? We've been working really hard at making our custom control panel publicly available. We've previously used it only for our own hosting servers.

At the moment we're looking to give away 5 licenses provided that the user's are prepared to give us feedback. The product works well for most use cases. If you're interested in getting a free license give me a shout.

It only runs on Centos 6 at the moment. The Centos 7 version is nearing completion.
 
Hi there. We've got Centos 7 installed and already bought a dedicated license. Do you have a website for this control panel? Whats the pricing going to be like, after the trial, or once you release?

Panels are a huge security risk. Just Google Zpanel and security as an example. Rather learn to roll your own and use the CLI.
 
Hi, There is a very minimal website up at WebCP.pw. I think a better view of it is to test the demo version at http://demoserver.co.za. To log into the control panel go to http://demoserver.co.za/webcp. Mail is at http://demoserver.co.za/mail and mysql at http://demoserver.co.za/mysql.

Mail sending is disabled on the demo server, but other than that its fully functional.

Login in with username: [email protected] and password adminadmin

The basic flow is add a package in under the Packages link (there is already one set up there), then optionally create a new user, then add the domain under "Domains"... If you add any domain like "john.demoserver.co.za" it will treat is as a "proper" domain. It might take 2 or 3 minutes to add the DNS records before it becomes publicly available.

As per jsheed_sa, I agree that there's always risk. Having said that, most of us cannot dedicate resources to manually setting up client domains, and then managing there emails and all the queries that arise (like email trace, setting up FTP, etc, etc). So we deal with panels which makes life easy for our clients and we manage the security. There's a difference between rolling one or two servers for your own internal use and running a public hosting service...

PS, we're also working on a pretty cool billing manager which we already use for our own hosting clients, but that's not ready enough for release yet.
 
Couldn't login, I was presented with an Update user form and sees the email address as Invalid when I try to update the user with the same address. So I changed the mail address to [email protected]

Hi, There is a very minimal website up at WebCP.pw. I think a better view of it is to test the demo version at http://demoserver.co.za. To log into the control panel go to http://demoserver.co.za/webcp. Mail is at http://demoserver.co.za/mail and mysql at http://demoserver.co.za/mysql.

Mail sending is disabled on the demo server, but other than that its fully functional.

Login in with username: [email protected] and password adminadmin

The basic flow is add a package in under the Packages link (there is already one set up there), then optionally create a new user, then add the domain under "Domains"... If you add any domain like "john.demoserver.co.za" it will treat is as a "proper" domain. It might take 2 or 3 minutes to add the DNS records before it becomes publicly available.

As per jsheed_sa, I agree that there's always risk. Having said that, most of us cannot dedicate resources to manually setting up client domains, and then managing there emails and all the queries that arise (like email trace, setting up FTP, etc, etc). So we deal with panels which makes life easy for our clients and we manage the security. There's a difference between rolling one or two servers for your own internal use and running a public hosting service...

PS, we're also working on a pretty cool billing manager which we already use for our own hosting clients, but that's not ready enough for release yet.
 
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Couldn't login, I was presented with an Update user form and sees the email address as Invalid when I try to update the user with the same address. So I changed the mail address to [email protected]

Hi, yes, that's by design. The [email protected] account is the initial account when you first set up the server. It then requires you to change it to an actual email address when you first log in...
 
Looks nice, easy to use, lacks features though. Like one click install apps, security certificates etc etc - The stuff that makes cPanel easy to use. But it's very nice so far.

and whats going on here - http://demoserver.co.za:10025/mass_mail/index.php


Hi, thanks.. Yes, we've only really brought out features that our clients have actually used... So for example there is an app installer but our clients actually have only ever asked for wordpress so that's there. SSL is on the list (actually it does support ssl but its just not been brought out to the front end - so for instance www.infobahn.co.za uses ssl). The goal here is to not get too bloated with every feature known to man that nobody actually uses (in fact, the original name for this was going to be web control panel lite)...

Oh, and by the way, when SSL is brought out to the front end it will allow you to do free SSLs using lets encrypt (eg, on this client site: https://mymathsbuddy.co.za/).

That page is a remnant of the old panel, before we actually prettied it up for client's use... That will be fixed in the next release.

FYI, there is a bug / feature tracker here: http://bug.webcp.pw

John
 
Okay cool. Looks good though, but still a bit lite for what I need.

I will certainly need people to install other apps too and also have ssl function, but it's looking good and will keep an eye out when renewal time comes for cpanel.

Thanks
Anton

Hi, thanks.. Yes, we've only really brought out features that our clients have actually used... So for example there is an app installer but our clients actually have only ever asked for wordpress so that's there. SSL is on the list (actually it does support ssl but its just not been brought out to the front end - so for instance www.infobahn.co.za uses ssl). The goal here is to not get too bloated with every feature known to man that nobody actually uses (in fact, the original name for this was going to be web control panel lite)...

Oh, and by the way, when SSL is brought out to the front end it will allow you to do free SSLs using lets encrypt (eg, on this client site: https://mymathsbuddy.co.za/).

That page is a remnant of the old panel, before we actually prettied it up for client's use... That will be fixed in the next release.

FYI, there is a bug / feature tracker here: http://bug.webcp.pw

John
 
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