Crime tolerance

[Dave A]

OK. Let's factor in the uptake on effective birth control methods at about the same time. Fewer unwanted pregnancies. Fewer forced marriages. Fewer unhappy families and broken homes.

Taken further, effective distribution of birth control pills, vigorously promoted, should solve our crime problems in 18 years time. Looking forward to it.

I'm kinda kidding. Obviously the situation is complex and there are a multitude of factors. And they all contribute.

People born in poverty does not help. People accepting petty crime doesn't help. The gang culture doesn't help. The drug culture doesn't help. A sense of hopelessness doesn't help. A life without discipline doesn't help.

And that is what the broken windows policy did - reintroduce the seed of societal self discipline and responsibility. And accepting responsibility is something sorely lacking in these parts right now.

 

[kilo39]

OK. Let's factor in the uptake on effective birth control methods at about the same time. Fewer unwanted pregnancies. Fewer forced marriages. Fewer unhappy families and broken homes.

Taken further, effective distribution of birth control pills, vigorously promoted, should solve our crime problems in 18 years time. Looking forward to it.

Except we have the opposite issue in SA - which the states also had at one time/now changed in preference to active promotion of birth control (?) / and the cutting of social services budgets by the bush administration (whatever) - point being: recent Special Assignment about our kids receiving child grants - and having kids to receive the grant (school girls)...

In excerpt in that movie shows the narator go to Canada where they have more guns than people, yet they have amongst the lowest gun murders in the world.

The columbine story is interesting - disaffected youths making a political statement - similar to the random stabbings in the UK -?- our crime comes from a completely different place.

 

[Alan]

There are bad people in this world. People who grew up in a good enviroment yet still managed to do horrendous crimes. There is no logical reason why they turned bad, they just do. Maybe we just have more people like that in S.A.

 

[Leitmotif]

AlanF: Yeah, common ground is good. I just get a little heated on issues of personal freedom. My apologies if I was a bit harsh.

So far I'm with Dave A all the way. Responsibility for one's actions is an essential requirement for obedience to the law. Punish the little things and the big things will follow.

Responsibility and consequences must however be reinforced from an early age. The best way to do so is the most direct - kid does something bad, corporal punishment. Direct linking. Nice and simple, easy for a young brain to build an association on.

 

[Dave A]

The columbine story is interesting - disaffected youths making a political statement - similar to the random stabbings in the UK -?- our crime comes from a completely different place.

Is it that far away from our reality? Perhaps theft can be blamed on poverty, but

The violence that goes with it... Maybe it is a political statement of sorts.