Crime

swim said:
Got robbed 2 years ago all my tools in my garage gone i then connected my wall plug to the garage door with no earth and what happens i hear something like a pig (some chap) squealing, they never came back.
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You can be lucky no one died, a kid could have tried to open the door. :sick: You could have been married in jail for life then!
 
my car got broken in to a few months back. The alarm went off and i shouted out the window, he ran like hell, straight in to 2 off duty policemen.
 
wallace said:
You have been told already - if you don't like it, then leave.
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Yeah, but the thing is, I don't take orders from Selebi. I'd rather get him to leave.
NoADSLyet said:
Easy solution. Get colonialists, China? to run the country!
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Tempting as that may be, I also don't want to live in a country where they execute you for having the wrong opinion. I hear the crime rate in Iran is also very acceptable. I think we can find our own middle ground.

Look I know that poverty is a factor and opportunities and that we need a multi facteted approach to deal with a complex issue yada, yada, yada. But a damn fine first step would be to hugely increase the police forces funding, stamp out corruption within it's ranks, promote based on merit and adopt a zero tolerance attitude to crime. Our police have proved over and over again that they are capable of catching almost anyone when adequate resources are allocated. Most high profile crimes are solved in a matter of days. (Luck dube, Mrs Sexwale). Just they don't have the resources to do this for more than a few cases at the time.

And what do we need to take this first step? Political will and leadership. Which in my opinion, is in extremely scarce supply under Mbeki. Thats what frustrates me so much about SA (and many of the more negative South africans). South Africa is not hopeless. We can fix this. We've been through worse and had bigger challenges. I know, I was there. But there seems to be a total lack of will to address any real issues at the moment. Be it Crime, Health, Telecommunications, Jobs etc. We need a strong president (personality not power), who will demand results from his cabinet. Not a behind the scenes beaurocrat who values loyalty above competence.

Just my 2c.
 
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They should really allow the creation of gated communities again. Sure, it would turn SA into a billion city state country, but it seems to be working (kinda). People round here can actually go for a walk at 18h00. Cost like 4k a year, but well worth it.

If they just follow a Machiavellian approach with the harsher cases then it would solve a lot of problems. At the moment the risk involved in committing a crime is just too low. Criminals are rarely caught and if they are, they spend a few months in jail/1k bail for rape. No wonder crime is the national pastime.
 
Well sad to hear always about fellow za'ers being victims.
How bout before you leave the country......rather come to cape town?

It seems we have a hell'uva lot less crime here than you guys up in gauteng.
 
thats cause you don't have anything worth stealing in cape town
 
Lol @ BT6LW.

So how's that worked out for you having "all the worthwhile stuff"?

And ure right feo. We didn't even nail down table mountain or electrify it and it's still here. No one has even thought about taking it from us :D
 
armitage said:
It seems we have a hell'uva lot less crime here than you guys up in gauteng.
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We have less people. Percentage wise I'm not too sure that the crime is that much less. Less, sure, but much less? Dunno [1].

OTOH there's been a few cases of dealing with criminals recently. The dude who fired warning shots on the mountain for one. Also

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20071022144221880C327211

Man, 77, allegedly guns down intruder
Andisiwe Makinana
October 22 2007 at 03:58PM

Police opened a murder case after a 77-year-old man allegedly killed
an intruder in his Vredehoek home early this morning.

Police said they were investigating the incident.

ER 24 spokesperson Derrick Banks said a man in his late 20s had
allegedly broken into a home in Vredehoek at about 6am.

"He apparently hit the 77-year-old occupant of the house over the head
with a plank," said Banks.

The elderly man retaliated and a shot was fired.

Banks said when paramedics arrived on the scene they found the
intruder dead on the doorstep.

When the Cape Argus visited the house, the man was clearing glass from
his lounge. On spotting the media, he came to the gate and said he did
not want to talk about the incident.

# A 55-year-old-man had his gun confiscated and faces a murder charge
after he allegedly shot dead a burglar who attacked him in his house
in Buxton Avenue, Oranjezicht earlier this year.

o This article was originally published on page 1 of Cape Argus on October 22, 2007


The only thing wrong with the above, in my opinion, is that these people have to defend themselves twice, once against the criminal and then against the legal "justice" system.

Koos

[1] My sister-in-law's father is still in hospital after being multiple-stabbed about two weeks ago. Housebreaking. He's had I think six operations already, almost lost a leg. If he dies now it'll probably be recorded as "natural causes". And of course it didn't hit the news.
 
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