Currency conversion fee for Rand advertised digital products

MagicDude4Eva

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Hi all,

I am currently busy with a case against SBSA (don't judge me on the purchase of No Man's Sky - http://www.naschenweng.info/2016/09/08/sony-playstation-south-africa-overcharges-purchases/) where the bank will authorise a transaction based on the advertised Rand amount and a few days later settle with a 2.5% currency conversion fee (example: Sony PSN advertises for R899, purchase SMS goes through as R899 and 4-5 days later transaction settles at R921.48)

Although the bank initially acknowledged this to be a "system issue" and then refunded me all fees charged on Steam, iTunes and Playstation Network, they have now reverted that it is only an incorrect naming convention of the fee:


With reference to the matter at hand, same had been escalated to our offices for a response.

We confirm that the international transaction fee is correctly being debited as the transaction is concluded outside of SA. The historical reversal of the fee on your account was done as a gesture of goodwill.

As pointed out by Richard his team is urgently attending to the correct naming convention of this fee.

You remain at liberty to consider any options available to you, as the bank’s stance regarding the application of this fee will unfortunately not change.

You may use reference number XXXXX.

From initial comments from PASA, this seems to only occur with SBSA but I would appreciate it if anyone banking with other banks and recently having purchased something on PSN Store, Steam or iTunes could have a look at the following:
- What was the initial purchase price in Rand?
- Where you charged the same amount or did the settlement a few days later include a 2.5% fee

While I appreciate it that a currency conversion fee could be levied, it would then be my expectation that the stores would then not advertise digital products in Rand. The above seems to been happening since mid 2014 and would affect all Standard Bank credit card customers. There might be other stores advertise in Rand, but conclude transactions outside of SA (makes me now wonder if any of those companies comply with the SARS VAT rules for digital goods - their invoices do not show VAT).

Your help is appreciated - if you don't want to post in this forum, please PM me or send me an email - gerd[at]naschenweng.info
 
You bought No Man's Sky? I'm surprised nobody is filling a case against you

Anyway been keeping an eye on this since your original complaint. Good luck buddy...
 
Many companies advertise in Rands but process outside of SA.

Uber is one of them, so it Netflorist, Steam, iTunes/Google Play app stores, Most dating sites etc.

I've just had a quick look at my transaction history, and I'm not charged any additional transaction fee (I bank with FNB) for these types of transactions.

ETA - No conversion fee is applied either on my Grindrod account.
 
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You bought No Man's Sky? I'm surprised nobody is filling a case against you
I am proud to make stupid decisions once in a while. Besides buying a Landrover, my 1st (now ex) wife and No Man's Sky, I have not made many other bad decisions :whistle:

Many companies advertise in Rands but process outside of SA.

Uber is one of them, so it Netflorist, Steam, iTunes/Google Play app stores, Most dating sites etc.

I've just had a quick look at my transaction history, and I'm not charged any additional transaction fee (I bank with FNB) for these types of transactions.

ETA - No conversion fee is applied either on my Grindrod account.
Thank you - so when you did a PSN/iTunes/Google Play purchase the Rand amount charged reflected the same on your statement?
 
I am proud to make stupid decisions once in a while. Besides buying a Landrover, my 1st (now ex) wife and No Man's Sky, I have not made many other bad decisions :whistle:


Thank you - so when you did a PSN/iTunes/Google Play purchase the Rand amount charged reflected the same on your statement?

Yep, exactly the same.
 
Yep, exactly the same.

Thank you. I have now prepared submission to OBSSA, FAIS, FSB and NCT. Since all entities require detailed proof, I also documented this in a lengthy and boring blog post).

I am actually very surprised that no-one has ever picked this up (and am more shocked about the bank's response).

If anyone banks with other banks and is willing to provide some more supporting evidence, please email me some screenshots before Friday as I would like to finalise my submissions with the regulatory bodies by then.
 
Thank you. I have now prepared submission to OBSSA, FAIS, FSB and NCT. Since all entities require detailed proof, I also documented this in a lengthy and boring blog post).

I am actually very surprised that no-one has ever picked this up (and am more shocked about the bank's response).

If anyone banks with other banks and is willing to provide some more supporting evidence, please email me some screenshots before Friday as I would like to finalise my submissions with the regulatory bodies by then.

I bank with FNB, and subscribe to Google Play Music and I'm billed R59.99 every month with no currency conversion fee at all.
 
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