DA outburst about Nkandla ruling

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A ruling by the chairwoman of Parliament's public works portfolio committee blocking discussion on President Jacob Zuma's Nkandla residence provoked an angry outburst from the DA on Wednesday.

Following a briefing by public works director general Mziwonke Dlabantu on his department's 2012/13 annual report, MPs started raising questions about the Public Protector's still ongoing investigation into controversial upgrades at Zuma's KwaZulu-Natal home.

Committee chairwoman Catherine Mabuza put a stop to this.

"I don't know why this issue is brought to this meeting because the investigation is still going on. Let us be in order, and let us not be impatient on the Nkandla issue.

"We will deal with it, [but]... not now. Let's allow the Public Protector to complete her investigation," Mabuza ordered.

Democratic Alliance MP Anchen Dreyer lodged a strongly-worded objection to the ruling.

"There have been a series of attempts... over the past year, when I raise issues that are uncomfortable to the ANC, you attempt to shut me up. I won't shut up to please the ANC. I won't stop asking difficult or potentially embarrassing questions. I've got a right to ask any question I want to.

"I just want to make very clear an objection to your ruling about it. [This] has happened time and again."

Dreyer had earlier asked if the security upgrades at Nkandla -- one of public works' so-called prestige portfolio projects -- had been completed and handed over.

MPs had also asked Dlabantu if he knew when Public Protector Thuli Madonsela would complete her investigation.

Responding to Dreyer's objection, Mabuza said: "I won't entertain issues that are under investigation; that's my ruling."

She then instructed the department not to respond to questions about Nkandla.

"DG, you are not going to entertain an issue that is under investigation. I will not allow that," she told Dlabantu.

The DA has taken legal action in an effort to compel the public works department to reveal its own report on the upgrades carried out at Zuma's Nkandla home.


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Date : 16 Oct 2013 14:39
 
Why is Mabuza referred to as a Chairwoman? Are we not on track w.r.t gender neutral descriptions?
 
I really find it funny how everytime Nkandla comes up, they always try cover it up somehow. Weren't documents about Nkandla classified at some point?

The fact they keep avoiding this issue just speaks for itself. Hopefully when DA does get to run RSA, they will uncover all of ANC bullcrap.
 
I really find it funny how everytime Nkandla comes up, they always try cover it up somehow. Weren't documents about Nkandla classified at some point?

The fact they keep avoiding this issue just speaks for itself. Hopefully when DA does get to run RSA, they will uncover all of ANC bullcrap.

Because it is still on going. I think the documents that was classified was that of the Portfolio Committee on Intelligence, where they launched their own investigation as well. All the Portfolio Committee on Intelligences' meetings are closed meeting and classified.

I will wait for the ruling by the Public Prosecutor and then I will decide.
 
Because it is still on going. I think the documents that was classified was that of the Portfolio Committee on Intelligence, where they launched their own investigation as well. All the Portfolio Committee on Intelligences' meetings are closed meeting and classified.

I will wait for the ruling by the Public Prosecutor and then I will decide.

Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up. I hope the Public Protector will not be "boxed in" by the higher-ups, influencing their findings and decisions.
 
I sort of agree, wait for the protectors report, then make all the noise you want if the findings warrant it.
 
Nothing will happen except Zuma will be ousted and retire to his Disney Land and with a gravy handshake.
 
DA should just ease off on this - they're seeming desperate - wait for the Public Protector's investigation to be complete and then go for the jugular.
Now you're just sound like a school kid looking for attention.

Lets hope Madonsela can keep her job though :rolleyes:

http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/mps-grill-public-protector-1.1592636#.Ul95idJ_NQE

Sorry but i dont agree. Everything ought to have time frames. That is why elecetions come around every few years. You cannot have an investigation that takes years to complete.

Are you telling me DA will have to shut up and this goes on until the next election. Then we start on new scandal becuase the new president gets 500mil residence, meanwhile this nkandla scandal loses relavance.
 
DA should just ease off on this - they're seeming desperate - wait for the Public Protector's investigation to be complete and then go for the jugular.
Now you're just sound like a school kid looking for attention.

Lets hope Madonsela can keep her job though :rolleyes:

http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/mps-grill-public-protector-1.1592636#.Ul95idJ_NQE

Sorry but i dont agree. Everything ought to have time frames. That is why elecetions come around every few years. You cannot have an investigation that takes years to complete. This is legitimate question. When?

Are you telling me DA will have to shut up and this goes on until the next election. Then we start on new scandal becuase the new president gets 500mil residence, meanwhile this nkandla scandal loses relavance.
 
True, but it is a decision they should be making themselves. It shouldn't be forced upon them as it is now.

I'm not sure - but is that not the Chairperson's call?
Either way - I can understand how it can become mundane, annoying and repetitive.
All of the damned red tape associated with getting your job done in parliament or in one of its portfolio committees can be tedious.

Ask questions to which you can expect answers or debate.
If its being dealt with by someone else - and they're the only one's who can give you any valuable insight into it - Then why bother?
Just a thought...
 
Sorry but i dont agree. Everything ought to have time frames. That is why elecetions come around every few years. You cannot have an investigation that takes years to complete. This is legitimate question. When?

Are you telling me DA will have to shut up and this goes on until the next election. Then we start on new scandal becuase the new president gets 500mil residence, meanwhile this nkandla scandal loses relavance.

If you think though that Madonsela is a puppet for the ANC holding up her findings, then you are misguided.
Its with her and she'll get it out when the work is complete.
She's shown to be credible.
 
When? It should not be too hard to give date or approximate date. It doesnt matter what ruling it is. If the date is stated, then it would appropriate to tell DA off.

Iam not expecting a favorable finding but time is money.
 
When? It should not be too hard to give date or approximate date. It doesnt matter what ruling it is. If the date is stated, then it would appropriate to tell DA off.

Iam not expecting a favorable finding but time is money.

Now you're sounding a lot like the honorable Anchen Dreyer. ;)

I appreciate that its a pertinent and pressing issue - but ask the blerry person responsible for the investigation. That's what they should do.
I hate nags - and the DA sometimes is just that.
Doesn't mean I'll change my vote, but nou ja.
 
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