Database Applications IDE

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Hi Guys,

Does anyone know what would be the fastest way to create stand alone/server based desktop database applications.
Something similar to MS Access. I don't mind what language as I know a few programming languages. I know SQL aswell and do have about 7 years experience in programming. I am just looking for the best way to create database apps rapidly.

Cheers
 
A surprising question from someone with 7 years experience.
 
A surprising question from someone with 7 years experience.

Seriously!?!?!?!?!

I am asking opinions. And also note that I said I had experience in programming, not database applications.

@xumwun: Thanx, I do use Visual studio, I just thought there might be something out there that is a bit more rapid development orientated on the database side. I will be using master/child relationships a lot in my project and I'm looking for something that can cut down on the time spent doing the SQL side.

Does anyone have any experience with MS LINQ?
 
Seriously!?!?!?!?!

I am asking opinions. And also note that I said I had experience in programming, not database applications.

@xumwun: Thanx, I do use Visual studio, I just thought there might be something out there that is a bit more rapid development orientated on the database side. I will be using master/child relationships a lot in my project and I'm looking for something that can cut down on the time spent doing the SQL side.

Does anyone have any experience with MS LINQ?

Sorry,

To answer you without being nasty, think of a database app as being the same as any programming that writes to a file system very often, but that the API is already written for you and you just need to define the file layout.

There are tools that can generate simple apps to insert, update etc., very quickly, but they are simple. Very simple. No validation. No business rules.

That's when it no longer becomes rapid dev.

Every vendor has such tools, Microsoft, Oracle.

I wouldn't choose based on what you percieve as the best DBMS RAD tool. Rather stick with the language/platform you know best and find one that works on that.
 
Sorry,

To answer you without being nasty, think of a database app as being the same as any programming that writes to a file system very often, but that the API is already written for you and you just need to define the file layout.

There are tools that can generate simple apps to insert, update etc., very quickly, but they are simple. Very simple. No validation. No business rules.

That's when it no longer becomes rapid dev.

Every vendor has such tools, Microsoft, Oracle.

I wouldn't choose based on what you percieve as the best DBMS RAD tool. Rather stick with the language/platform you know best and find one that works on that.

Great stuff. Thanx. Would you say using the Visual Studio package and the built in tools would be the "easiest" way to create database apps?
 
You may find Wavemaker interesting.

Otherwise, the various PHP RAD frameworks offer good cross database support - Yii, Cakephp, Codeigniter etc.
 
7 years my ass, if that were true you would never type "And also note that I said I had experience in programming, not database applications" :p
 
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Thanks guys for the tips, but they are all web based applications. I need to create a desktop application. Basically, I need something to create a front end for a database that runs on the desktop. The web based part I am sorted with.

@ _kabal_: TROLL!!!
 
Speaking the truth makes one a troll! Ok....

Every post you have made in this thread would not have been done by someone with 7 years experience. I know it. You know it. Everyone else knows it.

It's ok to be a beginner at something, I don't see why the need to claim otherwise. Doing pascal in school 7 years ago does not equate to 7 years experience.

anyhow, the "best" would depend. maybe the "best" meaning quickest for you, would to go with something you know. if you know .net, then probably C#, I am sure this has progress quite nicely from the days of basic ADO. if you do C++, them maybe visual C++? there are also tons of great tutorials out there.

essentially it is not any different to building a web app. you are still binding your data models to the UI/presentation, and populating/persisting those datamodels via data services, be they webservices/external apis, or direct database datalayer
 
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Great stuff. Thanx. Would you say using the Visual Studio package and the built in tools would be the "easiest" way to create database apps?

I barely use Microsoft. Oracle mainly

Im afraid There is no "easy" way to build database apps. That's why we get paid the big bucks.

But then your idea of "easy" and mine are probably miles apart.

Every day at work I hear a product manager say "we need this easy change, and we need it fast" usually means incoming cock-up of epic proportions and overtime pay.
 
Hi Guys,

Does anyone know what would be the fastest way to create stand alone/server based desktop database applications.
Something similar to MS Access. I don't mind what language as I know a few programming languages. I know SQL aswell and do have about 7 years experience in programming. I am just looking for the best way to create database apps rapidly.

Cheers

What about Sql Server Compact?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_Server_Compact
 
You might want to check out Clarion from Softvelocity. You can create full blown database desktop applications really quickly.
 
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