Dead PSU after 2 weeks

Ok - they had no stock so I didn't buy ;)

I'll drink tonight instead
 
PostmanPot said:
This.

These other expensive recommendations are quite ridiculous, Dolby just needs a basic, quiet PSU.

You'll battle to hear the CX430 at all.
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You are willing to spend 5k on the latest and greatest GPU but not willing to spend bucks on getting the most important component of any system, you get a cheaper GPU your frame rate goes down, you get a cheap PSU you system goes up in smoke.

Cheap PSU's are cheap for a reason, not because it's made by a lesser company, they use cheap components, cheap caps, single layer PCB's, improper cooling, thin gauge wire, no or lackluster line filtering hell they couldn't even be bothered with proper grounding of the unit, soldering looks like my dog's morning bowel movement. If that isn't enough, the labels lie, touting to have more than one rail, when you open them up they have a single rail design, it's simply cheaper to make a single rail design, and offer bare min or no protections for the rails or virtual rails, than having to do protections for all the rails.

and if they do have more than one rail, more often have protections for one rail, the continuous and peak outputs is a work of fiction, or hopeful estimates...

The CX isn't a particular bad PSU, there are far worse ones out there, they stripped out components out to the point where they if they stop working, they undo the last thing they did and sell it to the consumer, and budget PSU's love killing GPU ram and HDD's
 
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wizardofid said:
No CWT and FSP is considered a tier 4 PSU brand OEM, CWT, FSP have design issues use second tier caps, sloppy soldering, ripple and use old topologies, in particular the aging double forward design, which is basically good for bronze maybe gold, pending caps and cooling employed, because CWT is with corsair or in most major brands line up doesn't make them good.

The fact that CWT and FPS both made lots and lots of bad PSU's to say compared to seasonic, make them good for a door stop brand.So no CWT is not one of the better OEM's out there, they are average, and will remain average, till they finally drop kick their aging platform, and get some thing better.
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It's true that CWT does not make that many top tier PSUs, and so the fact that they don't always use Japanese caps is really neither neither here nor there, especially since Taiwanese and Chinese are nothing like as bad as they used to be. I'll give you that CWT does have a reputation for being average with regard to soldering, they are definitely no Delta, but I have yet to see any issue from this or any bad models in the last few years, though you're welcome to correct me. I also never said they were the best, but these days they make reliable hardware right from plain 80 Plus units through to highly-rated Gold ones. If that makes them 'average', well then I'll take that.

By the way, you're recommending two CWT units in your guide, so I think you should drop the 'It's CWT so don't buy it' line. Oh, and you should add recommendations for high-end PSUs for people running single-GPU setups, because the top ones are really overkill.
 
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KhoisanX said:
Here is the conclusion to review of the CX430 by Hardwaresecrets.com. They seem to think quite highly of it.
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Samnox and teapo caps, second tier caps, not the worse caps, but not great, notice that cap on the primary side next to the filtering stage of the PSU jammed right up against the rectifying bridge that is sure to get baked to a crispy tan in no time flat, and while at it, jamming teapo or samnox caps right next to heat sinks is asking for trouble at 45 degrees they start struggling to output rated voltage, causing ripple, and derate output wattage.
 
wizardofid said:
You are willing to spend 5k on the latest and greatest GPU but not willing to spend bucks on getting the most important component of any system, you get a cheaper GPU your frame rate goes down, you get a cheap PSU you system goes up in smoke.
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Please quote where Dolby mentioned a R5k graphics card?

Personally I had an AX850 for my gaming rig, downgraded to a CX400 and lesser GPU.

Cheap PSU's are cheap for a reason, not because it's made by a lesser company, they use cheap components, cheap caps, single layer PCB's, improper cooling, thin gauge wire, no or lackluster line filtering hell they couldn't even be bothered with proper grounding of the unit, soldering looks like my dog's morning bowel movement. If that isn't enough, the labels lie, touting to have more than one rail, when you open them up they have a single rail design, it's simply cheaper to make a single rail design, and offer bare min or no protections for the rails or virtual rails, than having to do protections for all the rails.

and if they do have more than one rail, more often have protections for one rail, the continuous and peak outputs is a work of fiction, or hopeful estimates...

The CX isn't a particular bad PSU, there are far worse ones out there, they stripped out components out to the point where they if they stop working, they undo the last thing they did and sell it to the consumer, and budget PSU's love killing GPU ram and HDD's
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The CX range is not cheap. Cheap for a decent quality tier PSU yes. But remember, at least 85% of people are buying proper cheap PSUs from Matrix, Chaos etc.

I know you have good intentions, but your crusade isn't necessary.
 
Rudimental said:
It's true that CWT does not make that many top tier PSUs, and so the fact that they don't always use Japanese caps is really neither neither here nor there, especially since Taiwanese and Chinese are nothing like as bad as they used to be. I'll give you that CWT does have a reputation for being average with regard to soldering, they are definitely no Delta, but I have yet to see any issue from this or any bad models in the last few years, though you're welcome to correct me. I also never said they were the best, but these days they make reliable hardware right from plain 80 Plus units through to highly-rated Gold ones. If that makes them 'average', well then I'll take that.

By the way, you're recommending two CWT units in your guide, so I think you should drop the 'It's CWT so don't buy it' line. Oh, and you should add recommendations for high-end PSUs for people running single-GPU setups, because the top ones are really overkill.
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Considering it was written for a international website, the editor making changes as he see fit, then by all means ;)

And actually have a look at the CWT units in that post, you should notice that, jap caps in them, cooling is brilliant, ripple isn't a problem, and actually have a efficiency rating, CWT isn't bad, but because their quality and performance is questionable at times and having stripped the GS800 my self for a review, I am confident in recommending it...and therefor I refrain from using CWT if I haven't seen the actual unit as their build quality can vary from brand to brand, The other problem is, CWT makes use of at least 3 different factories, pending were you find your self.Corsair has a quality benchmark, CWT has to meet it or it's your out, CWT HX series were made by CWT, they were quickly dropped infavour of seasonic ;)
 
wizardofid said:
Considering it was written for a international website, the editor making changes as he see fit, then by all means ;)

And actually have a look at the CWT units in that post, you should notice that, jap caps in them, cooling is brilliant, ripple isn't a problem, and actually have a efficiency rating, CWT isn't bad, but because their quality and performance is questionable at times and having stripped the GS800 my self for a review, I am confident in recommending it...and therefor I refrain from using CWT if I haven't seen the actual unit as their build quality can vary from brand to brand, The other problem is, CWT makes use of at least 3 different factories, pending were you find your self.Corsair has a quality benchmark, CWT has to meet it or it's your out, CWT HX series were made by CWT, they were quickly dropped infavour of seasonic ;)
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I'm pretty sure that all HX units >650W have always been made by CWT and <=650W have been made by Seasonic. The HX1050 you list there is in fact a CWT unit, if I'm not mistaken.

edit: Are you maybe thinking of the TX series? That went from CWT to Seasonic, I think, but then back to CWT for the TXM, I think.
 
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I took it in - not the PSU They reckon :/

And the board/ RAM and CPU are old and probably all need to be changed *sigh*
 
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