Did you ever do drugs?

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I feel fine after acid, though granted i haven't taken it all that much (>10). If anything i usually feel disappointed when it comes to an end, even after 12-15hrs.

I am not sure how to explain what i mean by no drug hang-over, with cat and pillz for instance i would feel almost depressed monday and tuesday and not feel quite like myself, acid did the same thing but shrooms i felt 100% on monday like i had not spent the whole weekend tripping :).

Not sure if that makes sense but i loved the drugs, i hated the next couple of days, moody, lazy :). I guess this is what makes people addicted is by feeling this way they take more to over-come it instead of riding the 2 days out :) and getting your happy juice back.
 

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And before somebody says something, im not encouraging drug usage, only advising others who are keen :)

+1

Drugs arent discussed openly (well because they're illegal), but you're not gonna be able to stop someone from experimenting, best warn them about what they're about to do
 

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I am not sure how to explain what i mean by no drug hang-over, with cat and pillz for instance i would feel almost depressed monday and tuesday and not feel quite like myself, acid did the same thing but shrooms i felt 100% on monday like i had not spent the whole weekend tripping :).

Not sure if that makes sense but i loved the drugs, i hated the next couple of days, moody, lazy :). I guess this is what makes people addicted is by feeling this way they take more to over-come it instead of riding the 2 days out :) and getting your happy juice back.


I know exactly how you feel ...

I occassionally drink but this happens to me if I have a few shots of Vodka .... I am only myself by Wednesday....
 

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And before somebody says something, im not encouraging drug usage, only advising others who are keen :)

Dude, I think this is stunning advice ... people should know about how it feels like and the dangers before they try the stuff.
 

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Not sure if that makes sense but i loved the drugs, i hated the next couple of days, moody, lazy :).

Yeah, there was a limit to how much enjoyment i could get out of drugs, and when the "bad" outweighed the "good" it was time to pack it up. As for acid/hallucinogens, the "bad" for me remains almost non-existent and I continue to find them to be very constructive drugs (used in moderation- +-3 times a year).
 

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It actually doesn't matter what the dangers are ; they do it anyway.

Ever tried convincing a user that hair falls out? Teeth falls out? Septum is disintegrating? Nails falling out?

They don't care - even when they see the evidene of what is happening
 

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It actually doesn't matter what the dangers are ; they do it anyway.

Ever tried convincing a user that hair falls out? Teeth falls out? Septum is disintegrating? Nails falling out?

They don't care - even when they see the evidene of what is happening

Those are junkies.

Not all people who drink are alcoholics.
Not all people who use drugs are junkies.

I'm sure your school told you all the bad things about drugs, but here is a question, did they ever tell you any of the good things about drugs?
 

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Dude, I think this is stunning advice ... people should know about how it feels like and the dangers before they try the stuff.

Those are junkies.

Not all people who drink are alcoholics.
Not all people who use drugs are junkies.

I'm sure your school told you all the bad things about drugs, but here is a question, did they ever tell you any of the good things about drugs?

I'm replying to this ; you can actually become addicted of one or two hits to certain substances. It wasn't specified in this post - but yea, I'm talking more about harder drugs.

I wouldn't advise anyone to try heroince or meth for fun
 

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It actually doesn't matter what the dangers are ; they do it anyway.

Ever tried convincing a user that hair falls out? Teeth falls out? Septum is disintegrating? Nails falling out?

They don't care - even when they see the evidene of what is happening

dude those arent the majority of drug users, those are the heavily dependant addicts and junkies. They arent interested in the drug at all, all they are interested in is twisting their reality to hide their problems...
If youre a head case, dont try drugs... only for stable people...
 

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dude those arent the majority of drug users, those are the heavily dependant addicts and junkies. They arent interested in the drug at all, all they are interested in is twisting their reality to hide their problems...
If youre a head case, dont try drugs... only for stable people...

Problem is, stable people become headcases from drugs. Quote me on it. Ask any ex addict how stable they were. I bet you're an addict and don't even realise it, no offense intended.
 

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I'm replying to this ; you can actually become addicted of one or two hits to certain substances. It wasn't specified in this post - but yea, I'm talking more about harder drugs.

I wouldn't advise anyone to try heroince or meth for fun

Heroin is the only drug i know that will hook 4/5 users off the bat, this is the main reason why ive never wanted to try it. Also just seems dirty...

But majority of recreational drugs do not fall into this category...
 

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Problem is, stable people become headcases from drugs. Quote me on it. Ask any ex addict how stable they were. I bet you're an addict and don't even realise it, no offense intended.

I think were all addicts including you... doesnt have to be drug related..
I wont lie, im dependant on the green stuff to sleep, but i can go a whole day without smoking it... just give me some before bed time :)

I wont argue with you about drugs causing people to go a bit crazy, but those people usually have deep rooted issues that may not be apparent before they try the drugs, and drugs just bring it out. I also know of people that have gone down that road, from sane to mental then back to sane again (once he was clean). But it all depends on the person...
Ive taken my fair quantity of substances, into the hundreds of grams where 2 grams is the dosage... Im as sane as I was before...
 

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Surv heroine for me is not a recreational drugs, TIK is as bad as well, once and your hooked they rate.

Dolby as alot have mentioned here not everyone is a drug addict, some people drink once a week and some people do drugs once a week, its the same thing apart from the law factor which is BS anyhow.
 

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Surv heroine for me is not a recreational drugs, TIK is as bad as well, once and your hooked they rate..

Agreed heroin is definitely not recreational... neither is Tik, both are crazy addictive...
 

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Dolby, my understand of what "instant addiction" is: try something and find it to be so wonderful that you decide then and there on the spot that you will be doing it again. "Instant addiction" is a misnomer: clinical addiction refers to the presence of core medical factors such as tolerance and withdrawal (withdrawal being an experience of the bodies' inability to function "normally" in the absence of the drug), neither of which can possibly be present after a single first use.

Agree that playing around with heroin or meth is dangerous from the perspective that, when presented with the knowledge of what being high on these is like, it becomes very difficult to choose to not use. A red pill/blue pill situation: once you know you cannot un-know.
 

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Dolby, my understand of what "instant addiction" is: try something and find it to be so wonderful that you decide then and there on the spot that you will be doing it again. "Instant addiction" is a misnomer: clinical addiction refers to the presence of core medical factors such as tolerance and withdrawal (withdrawal being an experience of the bodies' inability to function "normally" in the absence of the drug), neither of which can possibly be present after a single first use.

thats a bit of a useless term then, i could be instantly addicted to a ride in a park, the new cinemas at monte, a bar one.....
 

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Dolby, my understand of what "instant addiction" is: try something and find it to be so wonderful that you decide then and there on the spot that you will be doing it again. "Instant addiction" is a misnomer: clinical addiction refers to the presence of core medical factors such as tolerance and withdrawal (withdrawal being an experience of the bodies' inability to function "normally" in the absence of the drug), neither of which can possibly be present after a single first use.

Agree that playing around with heroin or meth is dangerous from the perspective that, when presented with the knowledge of what being high on these is like, it becomes very difficult to choose to not use. A red pill/blue pill situation: once you know you cannot un-know.

thing with Heroin and Speed in this case, is that the drug is soo strong and has such an effect on you, when it wears off the user is more likely to take some more to keep the high going. Heroin takes hold of you like nething, and the come down is soo bad, that person will probably take a bit more to ease it. This turns into a vicious circle and the user thus becomes addicted and a regular user. Speed is exactly the same.
 

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thats a bit of a useless term then, i could be instantly addicted to a ride in a park, the new cinemas at monte, a bar one.....

Well exactly my point tau1z, "instant addiction" is a misnomer, it doesn't really mean anything.
 
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