Thanx. I downloaded SuSE 11.2 KDE. Going to play with it. Ordered my free ubuntu cd so have a couple of weeks left to wait. I love the look of KDE, but I read you can just as easily make Gnome look like KDE and vice verca. Going to use SuSE KDE for a couple of weeks now and see what I think.
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I have Ubuntu, Kubuntu & Xubuntu on various machines. I must admit, as a long time KDE user, that I'm beginning to prefer the way that Ubuntu handles things, especially USB memory devices - KDE's plasmoid is a pain in the butt.
At this stage, I don't like Xubuntu, but I haven't used it that much.
At this stage, I don't like Xubuntu, but I haven't used it that much.
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Downloaded this the other day just because I could and ran it on Virtualbox. I actually quite like it. Its very basic but still looks great for a desktop environment with such a small footprint. I love the splash screen with the shiny plasma stuff
the only difference I notice is that ubuntu creates the usb icon on the desktop. i'm interested what it is about kde's usb handling that irks you.
unfortunately, it's exactly that. the plasmoid requires that I have to click to open the stupid dolphin file manager before I can access the drive. I reckon I've had to open and close dolphin about 10³°°° times just to access a cd or flash drive.
Another thing, every time you upgrade, quite a few useful utilities just get deleted by the installer (synaptic being the thing I hate losing the most).
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i would think it is possible to setup kde to automount. It is not my preferred method of dealing with usb drives so I wouldn't know how to set it up.
that is strange behaviour given that kde is just a DE. just focusing on the synaptic issue; looking at my debian dependencies suggests that no update of any kde package should be removing synaptic. i think there may be some other system issue you are associating with kde.
happened on two totally different machines that I upgraded. in one case I was was actually watching the upgrade script running and saw it say "Removing synaptic". That script also uninstalls envyng, then messes up the nvidia driver install (again on two different machines, with different nvidia chips). Fortunately, I've fiddled enough with graphics drivers to get them running again. I don't know what I'll do when xorg.conf becomes obsolete.
The two ubuntu upgrades I did went with no hassle, I was especially pleased that it didn't mess around with my Voria add-ons on my Samsung NC10 netbook.
Hope you all have a pleasant Xmas day!
if it was kubuntu you were using I don't know what is up with that. I run Debian, Arch, SUSE and Fedora all with KDE, Gnome and LXDE installed. No update of KDE across the systems has touched anything not KDE related.
EDIT: where you using apt-get/aptitude/synaptic or a script to install?
EDIT: where you using apt-get/aptitude/synaptic or a script to install?
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I usually run the cdromupgrade script on the alternate CD. This script then runs a whole host of python scripts under dists/karmic/main/distupgrader/binary-all/karmic.tar.gz
Sometime I'll unpack them then run a grep on those scripts.
I have not touched xorg.conf in Arch for a while now which could be a blessing in disguise. Think dbus handles it these days.
hal i believe handles things
i know that fedora boots without an xorg.conf. i've been using the hal configuration since early this year (possibly last year) when I started running gentoo. But if you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log of most current distros, you will see that hal mostly handles devices. Unless you set AllowEmptyDevices (or whatever it is called).
Thanks for your interest in this problem Milo, I do appreciate it. One thing that disappeared in the upgrade that also irritated me was the disappearance of Firestarter. I really do feel for the noob if something like that happened - at least, I could help myself, what does the noob do with an active firewall and blocked Internet access to try and solve the problem?
I will go through those scripts asap.
On another note (and totally OT), by and large I'm hugely impressed with the open source software people and their willingness to respond in trying to fix problems.
as a matter of interest, would the be kde as from kubuntu. or kde installed after installing ubuntu?
i can imagine how the firestarter could be a real head banger. i always thought firestarter was just a frontend for iptables.
i can imagine how the firestarter could be a real head banger. i always thought firestarter was just a frontend for iptables.