This is highly strange. I am at a client with a 4MB adsl line. This line has always been the fastest and most stable line out there for me. I started a download of the ubuntu-9.04RC via normal http from my hosted server in the US. This is using Windows XP SP3 and winwget which is wget for windows a downloader. 23/30Kb download speeds the worst I have ever gotten at the client Leave the download running in the backround for an hour or so - no change. Have to leave the client but as the ubuntu is for them decided to let it continue downloading on their server. Copy the file to the server which is running ubuntu 8.04 server and start the download their using wget for linux - speed is immediately 120/200Kb per second exactly what I expected. So maybe its something on my laptop so I rebooted into ubuntu 8.10 desktop on the laptop and tried it again - 120/200 Kb per second max again! So i tried it on someone else's desktop running XP Pro SP3 same problem 25/30Kb per seconds max on the windows machine, got back to my laptop running ubuntu 120/200Kb per second for the same download from the same server on the same line within seconds of each other. So has Telkom changed something on the adsl backbone the discriminates against the XP IP stack?