Do you believe in ghosts?

[Moosedrool]

FTFY
That said, science is at least capable of acknowledging that it's not sufficient to describe the cause of the existence of the physical realm.

Nah.

Read up what tangible evidence means in scientific terms. In order for your senses to observe something it needs to affect the physical realm i.e. be detectible using scientific equipment. If it moves something, if you can see it or if it talks to you. All these concepts are extremely well studied in science and yet no ghosts. There’s a reason I use the phrase reality because believers place these things more and more outside of the realm of what is real. In other words not real.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Nah.

Read up what tangible evidence means in scientific terms. In order for your senses to observe something it needs to affect the physical realm i.e. be detectible using scientific equipment. If it moves something, if you can see it or if it talks to you. All these concepts are extremely well studied in science and yet no ghosts. There’s a reason I use the phrase reality because believers place these things more and more outside of the realm of what is real. In other words not real.

Can I put an absolute zinger?

You can't really disprove ghosts using Science, can you ? I mean can you really disprove it 100% ? No? Then, acknowledge defeat of science.

 

[McRuder]

Can I put an absolute zinger?

You can't really disprove ghosts using Science, can you ? I mean can you really disprove it 100% ? No? Then, acknowledge defeat of science.

No, science can not disprove that you or whomever else are not seeing ghosts. This logic does not defeat science, it makes this an irrational argument. To expect science to prove or disprove **** people make up in their minds is ridiculous.

 

[Moosedrool]

No, science can not disprove that you or whomever else are not seeing ghosts. This logic does not defeat science, it makes this an irrational argument. To expect science to prove or disprove **** people make up in their minds is ridiculous.

Using italics normally implies sarcasm.

We need comic sans back.

 

[McRuder]

Using italics normally implies sarcasm.

We need comic sans back.

I suggest using tags. Then there are no misunderstandings.

 

[Conack]

My wife gets sleep paralysis. She wakes up screaming. My youngest got my curse and get night terrors also waking up screaming. My other two kids also get sleep paralysis from time to time.

I used to have horrible nightmares/night terrors as a child. Demons and all sorts of ****.

When I started to play Doom 1 way back then, crushing demons with gusto and having a great time, my brain learned that I can smash - so in my dreams I started playing Doom with the demons, destroying the hell knights with my doublebarrel shotty.

From there I had the occasional lucid dream where I could "will" weapons into the dream, or spawn them in my hands by envisaging them. Been having fun in dreams ever since.

Often I find lucid dreams causes the simulation to halt, so I would have to take the bullets and manually "will" them into enemies. And if they still keep coming, I have to envisage their heads full of holes since the bullets won't go there. Only then do they die. The moment your brain stops running the script, you have to do most of the physics manually. NPC's sometimes just stops and if you look at them closely, you'll see all sorts of discrepancies - like a kid with a beard, fingers on hands not natural, etc. (Like AI drawings of human hands)

The other plus is that I've grown nerves of steel (at least according to friends and family), so I enjoy all the terror/horror games.

Long story short, let the kid play Doom. (2016 or Eternal should be good, but perhaps drop the difficulty for him as the point is for him to be crushing). Might just work like it did for me.
Still don't believe in ghosts.

 

[EL'Diablo]

I used to have horrible nightmares/night terrors as a child. Demons and all sorts of ****.

When I started to play Doom 1 way back then, crushing demons with gusto and having a great time, my brain learned that I can smash - so in my dreams I started playing Doom with the demons, destroying the hell knights with my doublebarrel shotty.

From there I had the occasional lucid dream where I could "will" weapons into the dream, or spawn them in my hands by envisaging them. Been having fun in dreams ever since.

Often I find lucid dreams causes the simulation to halt, so I would have to take the bullets and manually "will" them into enemies. And if they still keep coming, I have to envisage their heads full of holes since the bullets won't go there. Only then do they die. The moment your brain stops running the script, you have to do most of the physics manually. NPC's sometimes just stops and if you look at them closely, you'll see all sorts of discrepancies - like a kid with a beard, fingers on hands not natural, etc. (Like AI drawings of human hands)

The other plus is that I've grown nerves of steel (at least according to friends and family), so I enjoy all the terror/horror games.

Long story short, let the kid play Doom. (2016 or Eternal should be good, but perhaps drop the difficulty for him as the point is for him to be crushing). Might just work like it did for me.
Still don't believe in ghosts.

Doom/Serious Sam yes
Shrooms NO!

 

[saor]

There is enough sightings to convince me that people did see something. But we can't always trust our experiences. My wife gets sleep paralysis. She wakes up screaming. My youngest got my curse and get night terrors also waking up screaming. My other two kids also get sleep paralysis from time to time.

The darkness is the projector screen and our minds are the projectors. We see what we want to see and we hear what we want to hear. Sometimes its comforting other times terrifying.

Mineshafts are terrifying when the lights goes out, it is a different type of darkness, it is for this reason why I always kept a handful of fresh batteries and a couple of headlamps in my toolbox. PETZL are good for this situation as they are reliable. The headlamps we where issued wasn't always reliable. But with LEDs it became less of a problem. The old globs use to fuse a lot

Sleep paralysis can be scary af. Had it once where I woke up and heard something heavy running up the stairs making a screeching sound. Just lay there as it got closer and as I saw a dark figure enter the room I passed out back into sleep. It's crazy how real it feels in the moment.

 

[schuits]

Lady of Newlands
Heks van HexRivier
Ghost of UnionDale

While I do not believe such things. these three in particular has a great following and many people having the same story.
But, while I do not believe, I will not be in a graveyard at night.
Also, just be at Magersfontein at night. You know it is the wind, but at night it sounds exactly like people moaning and dying.
If your mind want to see and hear things, it will.

The way I see it graveyards are peaceful as ghosts tend to hang around where they died or to something they were particularly attached to. As a kid and now I like visiting graveyards

 

[Conack]

Doom/Serious Sam yes
Shrooms NO!

I'm definitely a proponent of shrooms, but absolutely not for kids or even youngsters.
Much to benefit from, but maybe after 30 and when you've got your **** in order.

On a side note, during our last school year we (bunch of kids all in one car) drove through the cemetery and over graves as a shortcut to pick up one of the lads (pastor's son). Didn't ever pick up anything spooky there either.

Since ghost-hunters never find evidence of ghosts (armed with a camera), I remain a non-believer.
Amazing how many superstitions disappeared with the invention of cameras.

 

[Big Rat]

The way I see it graveyards are peaceful as ghosts tend to hang around where they died or to something they were particularly attached to. As a kid and now I like visiting graveyards

during the day... sure. at night. hu-uh, nope

 

[Bobbin]

Nah.

Read up what tangible evidence means in scientific terms. In order for your senses to observe something it needs to affect the physical realm i.e. be detectible using scientific equipment. If it moves something, if you can see it or if it talks to you. All these concepts are extremely well studied in science and yet no ghosts. There’s a reason I use the phrase reality because believers place these things more and more outside of the realm of what is real. In other words not real.

In short, science can only work well with deterministic events.

It's just unclear whether reality, and in addition our senses and free will and morality, is all entirely beholden to the same.

Therefore, it is equally unclear how limited science is.

We all don't know what we don't know and it might forever remain that way, essentially.

Welcome to the great never-ending madness inducing debate

 

[Bobbin]

FWIW I both love ghost and paranormal related stuff, while also not convinced they exist. I usually follow that stuff for the content/stories.

 

[Jings]

No, science can not disprove that you or whomever else are not seeing ghosts. This logic does not defeat science, it makes this an irrational argument. To expect science to prove or disprove **** people make up in their minds is ridiculous.

Slowly the scientific communities are coming on board to secure the interests and objectives of mankind. We need to learn the true reality of our multiverse. For those properly researching the paranormal topics will know that UFO phenomenon and ghosts have association. Many speculate that the type of energy used to power the technologies also manifest conscious forces, primarily seen as shadows.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/381405238_The_cryptoterrestrial_hypothesis_A_case_for_scientific_openness_to_a_concealed_earthly_explanation_for_Unidentified_Anomalous_Phenomena

 

[Bobbin]

Yes. I live in South Africa. Cannot deny it.

Did the ghost say, "Aweh Bra!"?

 

[Moosedrool]

FWIW I both love ghost and paranormal related stuff, while also not convinced they exist. I usually follow that stuff for the content/stories.

Avid watcher of MrBallen’s spooky stories.

Spooky stories are fun.

 

[R13...]

We can't be 100% sure, there's enough as of yet unexplained paranormal stuff going on out there. Perhaps ghosts or some hitherto unexplainable phenomenon.

 

[Jackal46]

during the day... sure. at night. hu-uh, nope

I don't like a hospital.

 

[Bobbin]

Avid watcher of MrBallen’s spooky stories.

Spooky stories are fun.

Also Nuke's Top 5 FTW Oh and Caspersight lol (IT'S A SHADOW BASTARD!!!)

 

[Willie Trombone]

Nah.

Read up what tangible evidence means in scientific terms. In order for your senses to observe something it needs to affect the physical realm i.e. be detectible using scientific equipment. If it moves something, if you can see it or if it talks to you. All these concepts are extremely well studied in science and yet no ghosts.

Ergo science concludes that ghosts don't exist in the tangible realm. That's not a conclusion that they do not exist at all.

There’s a reason I use the phrase reality because believers place these things more and more outside of the realm of what is real. In other words not real.

I think you're conflating science with philosophy.
You can't consider science to be sufficient for measuring everything real, if you did, how did everything that science is capable of measuring come about to start with? There had to be a beginning and a cause according to science, and that cause had to be something that science cannot measure as it would break many scientific principles.