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Does shaping affect your speedtest results???
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Gatecrasher
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On day one they are all perfect. That's why test accounts are pretty much useless. I'd rather read about the problems people have with their accounts over time and figure out whether I'd have the same problems given my usage pattern.
Makes one ponder whether the test accounts run at a higher priority than the normal accounts.... Mmmmmmmm I wonder
Gatecrasher
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Well, if shaping/throttling is based on your usage, there's no way you will experience that with a test account.
True that, especially since the trial accounts don't last longer than 3-7 days.
Gotta love Ti when it comes to their accounts though. No shaping at all but should you exceed their thresholds then they shape you. The thresholds depend on your line speed. For me 2MB the threshold is in the 250gb region. Which I've failed to hit so far.
They should call it Ti 2MB Unshaped till 250GB LOL
Tim the Techxpert
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Hi There,
Well shaped or not I think we have all felt the 5pm burst of internet freedom. I am slightly amused though with the ardent fascination with speedtest. It is only showing how one ISP can hop along the web to a server and back again. As has been pointed out as an ISP I would give that top priority. But running speed tests all day is not why you wanted the internet I suspect.
We all have needs be it gaming, downloading or commercial processing and these activities are what we should focus our attention on.
Regards
Tim
Well shaped or not I think we have all felt the 5pm burst of internet freedom. I am slightly amused though with the ardent fascination with speedtest. It is only showing how one ISP can hop along the web to a server and back again. As has been pointed out as an ISP I would give that top priority. But running speed tests all day is not why you wanted the internet I suspect.
We all have needs be it gaming, downloading or commercial processing and these activities are what we should focus our attention on.
Regards
Tim
Yep TI is Telkom Internet
Hi Tim,
My reason for the speedtest results is that they might show an indication of throttling during business hours. If speedtests are prioritised by ISP's then why do the speedtest results drop during business hours and then after 5pm the speedtest results are what they should be and the downloads etc are normal. If the speedtests are prioritised then the results should be the same regardless of time of day right??
WRT our needs (gaming, downloads etc), during hours when my friends speedtests are slow then his downloads are affected, he has a 4MB line simply because he downloads a lot (linuxdistro's and stuff). If he's paying for 4MB shaped account he's well aware that during hours he will be shaped but to have your speed reduced to 20% line capacity is ridiculous.
Chevron
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You do realize that your username is right next to your post so you don't need to sign your posts right?
NeoNarchy
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He also starts most of his posts with "Hi There", very formal....
Back on the topic:
So I asked my friends that I work with the question of whether shaping affects yor speedtest results and 1 guy interestingly was on the MWEB 4MB "throttled" accounts and he said when he first "upgraded" from a 1MB account to the 4MB account his speedtest showed 3.4MB down and his downloads were around 400-410kbps. After pulling 30Gb's his account was managed and his speed throttled his speedtest results were 0.5MB at best. Said guy, is now with Plugg.
This proves that throttling definetly affects your speedtest results, but what does it say about shaping then? Could it be that ISP's are throttling clients during business hours and calling it "shaping"???
So I asked my friends that I work with the question of whether shaping affects yor speedtest results and 1 guy interestingly was on the MWEB 4MB "throttled" accounts and he said when he first "upgraded" from a 1MB account to the 4MB account his speedtest showed 3.4MB down and his downloads were around 400-410kbps. After pulling 30Gb's his account was managed and his speed throttled his speedtest results were 0.5MB at best. Said guy, is now with Plugg.
This proves that throttling definetly affects your speedtest results, but what does it say about shaping then? Could it be that ISP's are throttling clients during business hours and calling it "shaping"???
Amphibious
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With the current ISP provider i'm with, i find when shaping is taking effect, my downloads go for a ball of crap... My HTTP traffic doesn't get affected so my speedtest result are fine cause everything you do on speedtest.net runs over HTTP Traffic.
Thanks Amphibious, the fact that your speedtest results are fine but your downloads are slow, proves that its shaping working. I'm really starting to believe this to be the norm.
I suspect those with slow speedtest results are victims of throttling....
Can I ask which ISP you are with?
Amphibious
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Bona Botse
A little insight goes a long way
I've had this debate with OpenWeb before where they claimed that 20KBps speedtests on a 4 meg GOLD account (lol) were a result of shaping and not throttling
.Amphibious
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Hehe 
Well atleast i have not experienced that in my lifetime with openweb yet
Well atleast i have not experienced that in my lifetime with openweb yet I've had this debate with OpenWeb before where they claimed that 20KBps speedtests on a 4 meg GOLD account (lol) were a result of shaping and not throttling
I've had this debate with OpenWeb before where they claimed that 20KBps speedtests on a 4 meg GOLD account (lol) were a result of shaping and not throttling
Can I ask if you can do a speedtest during office hours (when we know you being "shaped" and your downloads are 20kbps) and another after 7PM so we can compare the results?
I suspect that during hours when you being "shaped" that our speedtest results are going to be way lower than normal.
My theory/assumption is that we will find a direct correlation between the speedtest results and the severe "shaping".
Bona Botse
A little insight goes a long way
Can't help you there, I've long since voted with my wallet.
Oh damn I was hoping for some speedtests, so who is your new ISP? Do you find yourself having the same issues with regard to your old ISP?
My friend has also left his ISP, this week his internet has been practically useless, the ISP blames some windows updates as being the cause. He gave it till Wednesday to see if things improved and then cancelled his account, now he's a calendar month away from freedom.
Needless to say my internets been fine all week