DSTV dual view decoder qn

The burn in i swhy I don't want a plasma ... but I really, really do! But the burnn in .. argh! I'm not sure what I want.

Maybe an LCD? But they're not large either *sigh*
 
@swordfish1 - it looks slightly streched but not to a level of discomfort, but i think i also got used to it by now.

@Dolby - most newer LCD & Plasma screens come with builtin features to prevent burnin, plus the LCD screens now have a MTBF of 60,000 hours based on 8 hours per day usage.
 
useless said:
@swordfish1 - it looks slightly streched but not to a level of discomfort, but i think i also got used to it by now.

@Dolby - most newer LCD & Plasma screens come with builtin features to prevent burnin, plus the LCD screens now have a MTBF of 60,000 hours based on 8 hours per day usage.
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I've noticed some series like Enterprise and ER being shown in 16:9. If I then use the "zoom" feature on my plasma screen it fills the whole screen without looking stretched - really cool watching Enterprise like that.
 
useless said:
@Dolby - most newer LCD & Plasma screens come with builtin features to prevent burnin, plus the LCD screens now have a MTBF of 60,000 hours based on 8 hours per day usage.
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new plasmas got MTBF of 60,000 as well, the Sony one that I want for example
 
Dolby said:
The burn in i swhy I don't want a plasma ... but I really, really do! But the burnn in .. argh! I'm not sure what I want.

Maybe an LCD? But they're not large either *sigh*
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Picture-wise plasma is the way to go, durability wise (long life span) LCD is the way to go. LCD doesn't suffer from burn in at all. On other hand black sucks if you watch it in a very dark environment, which is what you will probably do
 
i might start a debate but CRT still has the best black and grey in the market, the wide angle vision of newer LCD & Plasma panels is around 170 degrees so that defect of theirs is somewhat diluted now.
 
useless said:
i might start a debate but CRT still has the best black and grey in the market, the wide angle vision of newer LCD & Plasma panels is around 170 degrees so that defect of theirs is somewhat diluted now.
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yes but don't you get a contrast degradation when viewing LCD at such angles? while with plasma you don't?

CRT is good but doesn't go biger than about 33" and it weights about 100 kilos at those sizes :D and I can't hang it on the wall ...
 
swordfish1 said:
so how is the streched TV coming? is it watchable? And what are you doing to avoid burn in?
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Ok - burn in? :confused: Is that something similar to the burn in you used to get with old crt monitors where a static image would leave an imprint?

Are plasma screens particularly vulnerable to this, even with a moving image? How - besides switching off the tv - can you prevent it?

I rotate through the various screen resize modes depending on what I'm watching. 42" is still plenty big enough to mean 1:1 is still going to be bigger and better then its predecessor.
 
swordfish1 said:
CRT is good but doesn't go biger than about 33" and it weights about 100 kilos at those sizes :D and I can't hang it on the wall ...
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AFAIK you can only push 32" with a widescreen CRT ( 16:9 ) and i have the slimfit Samsung which still weighs @ 50 kgs. Not very light but it really takes up less space than a regular 74cm TV.

As for burn-in, any static image if watched for long periods of time can cause a burn in even on CRT units, stuff like the CNN logo on the TV if watched for long periods of time on the same channel.
 
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Ok - burn in? :confused: Is that something similar to the burn in you used to get with old crt monitors where a static image would leave an imprint?

Are plasma screens particularly vulnerable to this, even with a moving image? How - besides switching off the tv - can you prevent it?

I rotate through the various screen resize modes depending on what I'm watching. 42" is still plenty big enough to mean 1:1 is still going to be bigger and better then its predecessor.
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don't you know that plasma suffer from burn in? that is the main drawback of plasma! Apparently the burn in is more severe than with old CRTs. Some american channels have even changed their logos to gray to reduce the burn in from imposing logos all the time.

Obviously burn in only occurs with static images, but you get plenty of those with watching BBC and Bloomberg for example. Most recent plasmas got some techniques to reduce burn in, but they don't always work. Some plasmas shift slightly the image over time for example. It is strongly unadvisable to watch a 4:3 content on a plasma with black strips on the sides, although I am sure you can. This will make the middle of the screen wear much quicker than the sides
 
36 and 38 inch crt's have been made in the past...but weight as much as a few elephants.
 
werner said:
36 and 38 inch crt's have been made in the past...but weight as much as a few elephants.
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yeah, but were they widescreen units? :confused:
 
useless said:
i think the best use of a 16:9 tv in SA from TV will come in 2010 when HD is finally introduced prior to the world cup, till then the best use of 16:9 is for movies and consoles. ;)
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DSTV do not b/cast true 16:9 at the moment - will probably only be implemented with the introduction of HDtv waaaay in the future (think 2010). Certain shows are widescreen on a 4:3 picture - you see it by the black bands on the top and bottom of the screen e.g. Superman, and others mentioned here. If you zoom the picture to 16:9 on the TV you will see the whole picture w/o the black bands filling the whole screen.
The other method as also mentioned here is when only 10% on either side of the screen is stretched to fill the widescreen - i.e. the centre picture looks normal (not stretched out) but the sides are stretched. Not all plasmas or LCD's support this feature. LCD's are growing in size - 37" LCD's currently available on the market if you shop around.
 
useless said:
@swordfish1 - it looks slightly streched but not to a level of discomfort, but i think i also got used to it by now.

@Dolby - most newer LCD & Plasma screens come with builtin features to prevent burnin, plus the LCD screens now have a MTBF of 60,000 hours based on 8 hours per day usage.
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Don't you mean that watching it at 8 hrs per day the TV will last for 20 odd years based on a MTBF of 60 000 hours?
Whether you watch 8hours per day or 10 hours per day, the MTBF will stay at 60000 hours. Its just the no of years the TV will last will be less at 10 hr /day.
BTW. For the low down check out http://www.plasma-vs-lcd.com/ - the info is slightly outdated as LCD's do not suffer from lag anymore (depending on the quality of the LCD i.e. price)
 
the MTBF lf 60k was calculated using the reference of at least 8 hours per day. it was just a reference. ;)

but in SA currently the prices for LCD, Plasma and any HDTV related visual equipment is absurd. dont know what can really cause prices to drop in the near future.
 
there seems to be a limitation to make over 32" CRT's in widescreen format... cant recall what it is...
 
useless said:
there seems to be a limitation to make over 32" CRT's in widescreen format... cant recall what it is...
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I seem to remember the number is 86cm (diagonally measured of course) somewhere I read it had to do with picture distortion and the earth's gravitational pull which had an influence on it. Can't remember where though.

Checking on Wikipedia, the max size is 91cm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_display_technology
 
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