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DVD Ripper
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supersunbird
Honorary Master
DVD Decrypter write the movie to a *.vob file on your harddrive. You can even select just to rip just the movei, without all the fluff (usually the directors comments stay as a audio option though).
DVD Shrink copies a DVD using your DVD drive, and writes it onto another DVD for you (it even shrinks the movies to fit onto a 4.7GB disk since most pressed DVD's seem to be dual layer.)
DVD Shrink copies a DVD using your DVD drive, and writes it onto another DVD for you (it even shrinks the movies to fit onto a 4.7GB disk since most pressed DVD's seem to be dual layer.)
DVD Shrink
http://www.dvdshrink.org/what.html
http://www.dvdshrink.org/what.html
willirbob, that's a lot more involved, basically you have to encode the .vobs into a .avi and a compessed sound file, I recommend using Gordian Knot it's probably the easiest, you're also looking at about 4/5 hours encoding time to do it properly.
dualmeister
Honorary Master
People still use Flask ?
DVDDecrypter is no longer updated. It's author finally lost against the movie mogals and technically it is now illegal software.
DVD Fab Decrypter is currently the best as it supports all the latest "problem" disks including ones DVD Decryter cannot rip.
To encode the movie to AVI, Auto Gordian Knot is easy as pie and produces excellent results. The Auto Gordian Knot package contains all you need to encode a movie including the latest XviD codec. DivX codec is not included.
To shrink it to a smaller DVD, DVDShrink and Nero Recode are great.
DVDDecrypter is no longer updated. It's author finally lost against the movie mogals and technically it is now illegal software.
DVD Fab Decrypter is currently the best as it supports all the latest "problem" disks including ones DVD Decryter cannot rip.
To encode the movie to AVI, Auto Gordian Knot is easy as pie and produces excellent results. The Auto Gordian Knot package contains all you need to encode a movie including the latest XviD codec. DivX codec is not included.
To shrink it to a smaller DVD, DVDShrink and Nero Recode are great.
dualmeister said:
AKA Sony ArCoSS. DVD Fab Decrypter is being updated whenever Sony updates it's cr@ppy 'protection'
AGK will work but it's a bit yesterday... AVI and VFW (Video For Windows) is a dead technology. The only reason it is still around is the same reason that there are still people with Win98 computers - it's what they're used to! For the latest and greatest in DVD backup and re-compression, look no further than MeGUI (available from source-forge).
X264 Video Compression (winner of '05 Doom9 codec shootout), AAC Audio (the same codec the iPod uses natively) in an MP4 container! It's a fully specs compliant MPEG4 encoding suite! Have fun....
dualmeister
Honorary Master
X264 may be superior, but AVI is still far from dead.
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X264 is a codec. AVI is a container. Avi can contain X264. GK and AGK makes provision for that. It's just that you are somewhat limited in terms of what you can do with the container (no multiple audio tracks, no inherent subtitles, large overhead, no native DirectX support.) Just about the only thing it has going for it is that it is easy.
So yes, I agree with you. AVI is far from dead in the same way that a Citi Golf is far from dead
So yes, I agree with you. AVI is far from dead in the same way that a Citi Golf is far from dead
dualmeister
Honorary Master
thed33p said:
I have been encoding movies since day one. You don't need to explain anything to me
Freshy-ZN
Executive Member
Great thread
LoneGunman
Expert Member
for ripping from DVD - AGK (auto gordian knot) is a great one stop minimal fiddling method to get good rips.. just set end sizes you want, and let er rip, and it opens and closes the various apps in the package automatically and does all the various things needed - and yeah it takes quite a long time, but the quality's great..
for DVD->DVD ripping, the killer app is still Shrink, in my view, ripped easily 1500+ sofar, and it always works beautifully..
for DVD->DVD ripping, the killer app is still Shrink, in my view, ripped easily 1500+ sofar, and it always works beautifully..
dualmeister said:
I have been encoding movies since day one. You don't need to explain anything to me
Well for everybody else's benefit then
I agree that both GK and AGK are great packages. I've used them myself for quite some time. len0x is a very competent coder. If you use (A)GK, you'll end up with great looking clips. It's not moving forward though. I can compare it to browsing the web with Internet Explorer - it works just fine (generally) but you don't get the Warm Fuzzy Feeling™ that comes from following standards. You are only following MS-standards. Furthermore, you are also falling victim to the limitations suffered by the 14 year old VFW (Video For Windows) interface.LoneGunman said:
For the benefit of everyone that's no experienced in video encoding, allow me to explain:
There are a number of containers available today. The most common ones are
-AVI (First introduced with Windows 3.11)
-MPG (container for MPEG-1 (Motion Pictures Expert Group))
-VOB (container for MPEG-2 (DVD)
-MP4 (container for MPEG-4 (HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, H.264 video-conferencing)
-QT (Quicktime - proprietary)
-RM (Real Media - proprietary)
-WMV (Windows Media Video - Proprietary)
-MKV (Matroska - Open Source)
-OGM (Ogg - for Vorbis & Theora)
out of all of these containers, AVI is the only one that does not use DirectX.
AVI was, in it's day, quite cool. It works by interleaving audio and video. So any AVI will be a bit of video, bit of audio, bit of video etc. The capabilities of AVI's were significantly enhanced with the by OpenDML (or AVI 2.0 as it's know) eg. enabling the container to play back files larger than 2 GB.
AVI's do not use DirectX. The use the aged VFW system, which works on a 1 frame in, 1 frame out basis. This resulted in a native incompatibilities with the basic features of the more advanced codecs like MPEG4 ASP (XviD & DivX.) These codecs, like its predecessor MPEG-1 have different types of frames (I, P & B.) An I-frame is a frame that can be decompressed without consulting any other frames (basically a still picture.) A P-frame is a frame that only describes the differences between the previous frame and the current one (big compression advantage). A B-frame in turn is a frame that is interpolated from the previous frame and the following frame (huge compression advantage).
Because of VFW's 1 in, 1 out nature, B-Frames become a problem (2 in, 1 out.) This was overcome in 1 of 2 ways - either buffering the in frames or by presenting the 2 frames simultaneously (AKA packed bitstream.) Some of the other limitations suffered by VFW include the inability to stream an AVI (the whole file must be present before playback can begin), a large overhead when used with modern codecs (resulting in big files --> lower quality if u write it to CD), very bad VBR audio support, flakey support for modern audio codecs (eg. AAC)
All that said, the gurus who hack the AVI format in order to contain new technologies have done a stirling job as most all features still work.
To summarise, AVI is quite capable but it't like the parrallel port on your PC - old and outdated.
So in the light of the post above, I urge you to use a program supportive of new technologies ,modern containers and standards (what could be better than AVC & AAC in MP4?) A perfect example would be MeGUI which was initially developed by Doom9. And for what it's worth, MeGUI can also create AVI if you really want it to!! Please try using it and prove me wrong
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=156112&package_id=174059&release_id=403725
If you have any problems, drop me a msg, I'll help you if I can. OK, my fingers are sore now!