Egyptians attack Israel embassy

[killadoob]

Errm dimwits don't realize north korea have nukes and have tested them, if they wanted to launch one they could already have done it but dimwits keep listening to the media who report that north korea want to launch them.

Dimwits also don't realize the only country to have ever launched a nuke is the US. So i am thinking dimwits must be fairly silly to go on about north korea hahaha.

Pakistan has nukes, liyba had nukes long time ago already and disarmed which they will be regretting now because had they had nukes they may have been able to avoid an attack by nato, so the message is clear if you want to protect yourself get some nukes, it's only the way to make sure you don't get attacked for no reason like iraq did. The scary thing is the US have used them before so they could very use them in the future so if i was iran i sure as shyte would want a few nukes but they don't want nukes. They think nukes are the devil and they are right, it's only sick disgusting people that would ever think about dropping them.

Pal can you show me proof that iran can develop a weapon? preferably not from the same source that claimed iraq had nukes.

I'll bet that confession came after some serious water boarding, i reckon people will say anything when they are tortured, you could more than likely torture people into suicide bombing. Why are there no calls for the only country to have ever a nuke to disarm?

 

[I want a GTI]

IMO if any credible country (Iran, for eg.) opens hostilities with Israel, other Arab countries would pile-in. Israel is universally hated in the Arab world but other Arab countries don’t want a nuclear Iran lording it over them in the ME. But hatred for Israel would trump this. However, if Iran fancies its chances, America is almost 100% certain (irrespective of previous commitments) to join-in as well. Russia and China will only spew anti-American rhetoric. They won’t interfere – they don’t want to see a nuclear Iran either. Cryptic crossword puzzles are easier.

Either way, its win win. Iran and Hezbollah are no pushover, make no mistake. Let them draw the States into another 10 year war, which will all but kill the states, atleast from a fiscal perspective. The Zionists and the States will ultimately defeat Iran and Hezbollah, but not without taking heavy casualties. Also, the economic problems this war will cause for the States will, ultimately result in the fall of the Zionist lackey from global supremacy. Geopolitics is a better place without them.

 

[I want a GTI]

Let me guess, you are a Sunni ?

What's worse, an infidel or a Shia ?
You belong to that "peaceful" lot ?

I feel your post deserves no response, as you generally post a bunch of verbose platitudes. Try posting intelligently, perhaps.

 

[killadoob]

I feel your post deserves no response, as you generally post a bunch of verbose platitudes. Try posting intelligently, perhaps.

I doubt that can ever happen, he seems shocked to find out north korea have nukes . All he knows about debating is saying white west haters , similar to marine who can only call people jew haters haha.

 

[Albereth]

Seems that someone has forgotten the bitch slapping dished out in just 6 days.

 

[marine1]

Let the Arab terrorists try again, yes it seems the jihadis have forgotten they got a complete hiding the last time. Maybe this time Israel should finish the job, the world would be a better place

 

[Palimino]

No iran does not have the ability to enrich uranium to nuke standard.

Not yet. That’s the whole point, to prevent Iran from developing the ability to enrich uranium to nuke standard.

You talk about record of lies yet you don't mind the US lying to attack countries. I don't see you moaning about that.

I have moaned! I’m no fan of the US but a modicum of objectivity is appropriate, not simply anti-US rants. The US sins are done & dusted (past tense) and they are reaping what they have sown. They did have however, (so the US population believed) some justification at the time (9/11) Iran does not have this excuse.

 

[killadoob]

Sorry they had justification to attack iraq who had no links to 911?

911 seems like a good excuse to attack anyone. The US lied about the iraq 911 link and about them having nukes. What justification did they have to attack a country that was not connected to 911?

So you have no proof that iran has the capability to build a nuke nor can you show me that they can enrich nuke grade uranium yet you want them stopped? There was no proof iraq had weapons yet they got attacked so do you like being lied to? How can you accept being lied to and then go off about iran being deceitful?

So the US lying is acceptable to you but you have issues with iran?

Seems like a double standard to me.

 

[Alan]

 

[Palimino]

Either way, its win win. Iran and Hezbollah are no pushover, make no mistake. Let them draw the States into another 10 year war, which will all but kill the states, atleast from a fiscal perspective. The Zionists and the States will ultimately defeat Iran and Hezbollah, but not without taking heavy casualties. Also, the economic problems this war will cause for the States will, ultimately result in the fall of the Zionist lackey from global supremacy. Geopolitics is a better place without them.

You are only focusing on the US and not on the larger picture. The Arabs don’t want a nuclear Iran. It would play havoc with the politics in the region. A Shia nation rattling nuclear sabres at Sunni countries? And setting themselves-up as spokespeople and leaders of the Arab world? Unacceptable! Israel is the only common enemy that trumps a nuclear Iran and that could change if Iran looks as if it may succeed.

What about Russia and China? They would make with the anti-American rhetoric and relish America wasting their substance but if there is the remotest possibility of Iran getting nuclear weapons, I suspect they may try to stop it as well. **No-one** in the world (capitalist/communist/Arab/Israel/US) wants to see a nuclear Iran except a small insane minority in Iran.

 

[Alan]

And who is the only country to have used nuclear weapons against another nation? But they are good God fearing Christians with God on their side (well according to GWB anyway).

Why is it OK for some countries to have nukes and not others. Are all those with nukes so called good guys?

I don't share your faith in brutal 3rd world dictatorships from the dark ages so no I don't consider them equal to western democracies hence why I have no problem with one being allowed nukes and not the other

 

[Palimino]

Geopolitics is a better place without them.

So who would you rather have?

 

[killadoob]

Iran is already is nuclear and i have not seen israel go boom. So this minority you speak of is the majority and they are now supplying their people with cleaner energy much like the US and many other countries who have numerous nuclear power stations.

Yup ponder so the so called good guys who attack countries and lie in order to get what they want have the nukes, they don't want countries like iran to have nukes because then they lose their power.

If the US can have nukes everyone should be allowed to because they are the most aggressive war driven nation on the planet and have proven in the past they will use nukes if they think it will save american lives.

 

[Alan]

boohoo those poor tyrants on the receiving end of U.S aggression. It's just not fair

As for Egypt it would be a shame if they repeat the same old mistakes being driven by vengeance against Israel instead of focusing on improving the situation in their own country.

 

[killadoob]

boohoo those poor tyrants on the receiving end of U.S aggression. It's just not fair

As for Egypt it would be a shame if they repeat the same old mistakes being driven by vengeance against Israel instead of focusing on improving the situation in their own country.

Maybe israel and the US can pay another corrupt dictator off in egypt

 

[Sherbang]

Israel would be foolish to assume that. This could be the start of another Arab/Israeli conflict. Consider:

Egypt triggers hostilities. Turkey weighs-in. Syria need to distract their population, they weigh-in. Iran opportunistically weighs-in. Bahrain (in solidarity with Iran’s shia) weigh-in. Saudi in solidarity with Bahrain’s sunni leadership, weigh-in. America dithers. They have commitments in Saudi and Bahrain and treaties with Israel (and no money and two other wars [and smaller firefight flare-ups in Africa]).NATO is preoccupied in Libya. China and Russia are being obstructionist. And so on. We live in interesting times.

I would say Israel killing Egyptian border guards is what triggered hostilities here...

Maybe israel and the US can pay another corrupt dictator off in egypt

Maybe Israel can stop killing Egyptian border guards

 

[Shibal]

I doubt that can ever happen, he seems shocked to find out north korea have nukes . All he knows about debating is saying white west haters , similar to marine who can only call people jew haters haha.

you have some sick bloodlust huh

civilians dying is never ok.

Military commanders have to make these decisions and they are not easy decisions. You talk about the guy sitting in a comfy place deciding whether it's fine? How do you know what they thinking? You are in your comfy place where everything is either right or wrong. A decision has to be made and the risk of civilian casualties assessed against the risk of doing nothing and hundreds, possibly thousands dying later on. I am grateful that they choose to avoid the latter. These people hide amongst civilians. Their bomb factories are in the same building as schools and hospitals. They hide behind the skirts of women. And people like think they are courageous when they strap explosives to their children. Scum.

The west and Israel do not intentially target civilians. HAMAS, Taleban and AQ do. The stated objective of HAMAS and Iran is that Israel does not have the right to exist. Israel and the west have accepted that the palestinians need a viable state. In fact, Israel signed up this in 1947.

I accept that we need to be vigilant against our military. But your tone doesn't indicate concern for civilians. It shows hatred of western values. Yes, you have criticised the other side. But when you criticise the west or israel, you vilify them. Your tone shows disappointment at HAMAS etc., and pure hatred toward the west and Israel.

Every thread started and just about every post portrays the, "any enemy of the evil white west is a friend of yours" position, and it even extends to the jihadists.
LOL, "I want a GTI", you have a friend

 

[I want a GTI]

You are only focusing on the US and not on the larger picture. The Arabs don’t want a nuclear Iran. It would play havoc with the politics in the region. A Shia nation rattling nuclear sabres at Sunni countries? And setting themselves-up as spokespeople and leaders of the Arab world? Unacceptable! Israel is the only common enemy that trumps a nuclear Iran and that could change if Iran looks as if it may succeed.

What about Russia and China? They would make with the anti-American rhetoric and relish America wasting their substance but if there is the remotest possibility of Iran getting nuclear weapons, I suspect they may try to stop it as well. **No-one** in the world (capitalist/communist/Arab/Israel/US) wants to see a nuclear Iran except a small insane minority in Iran.

You're missing the point, this war will happen eventually. I'm not advocating Iran. I want Iran and Hezbollah to fall, but I want the US and Israel to fall with them, or atleast severely weakened. As I said, the sunni states should abstain and let them nullify each other. The pro-zionist brigade on myBB keep harping about the 6 day war, as if we're living in the 60's. No mention of how a few shiah paramilitary fighters had bogged them down in 2006.

 

[Palimino]

I would say Israel killing Egyptian border guards is what triggered hostilities here...

‘Hot Pursuit’ of criminals is a commonly accepted reason for transgressing borders. If you are fired-upon you treat them as hostile. During apartheid, Frelimo bandits (half-assed military) came across the Mozambique border to harass locals and poach animals in National Parks. Then they would skedaddle back to Mozambique. Game guards and rangers often followed them and kicked butt. This was not regarded as a transgression of a countries borders, but the chasing and apprehension of criminals. Incidentally, poaching dropped to 0.

 

[Palimino]

You're missing the point, this war will happen eventually. I'm not advocating Iran. I want Iran and Hezbollah to fall, but I want the US and Israel to fall with them, or atleast severely weakened. As I said, the sunni states should abstain and let them nullify each other. The pro-zionist brigade on myBB keep harping about the 6 day war, as if we're living in the 60's. No mention of how a few shiah paramilitary fighters had bogged them down in 2006.

You're also missing the point. I have no doubt that this war will happen eventually, but consider:

Israel will do any bleeding required, except against Iran (which the US detests). It costs the US nothing to supply Israel. America would lend material support from their massive weapon inventory (it won’t cost them in their financial crisis), supply satellite intelligence, provide medical assistance, fill non-combatant roles to release more Israeli troops for frontline service, friendly media access, etc. (all at little or no cost to the donor). I don’t think the US and Israel would be excessively ‘weakened’.

The US can’t get more directly involved and risk accusations of ‘American interference in sovereign affairs’.