Eight questions for the SACP

NameOfBeast

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Comrades Nzimande and Mantashe should tell us whether they and the SACP accept the most basic doctrines of Marxist-Leninism -

1. Do they regard the SACP is the "vanguard of the proletariat" (Lenin)?
2. Do they believe that it is the task of the vanguard of the proletariat to institute "the dictatorship of the proletariat" (Marx, Engels and Lenin)?
3. Do they agree with Lenin that "the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat is rule ... that is unrestricted by any laws." (Lenin. The Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky)?
4. Do they agree with Lenin that "The dictatorship of the proletariat ... cannot result merely in an expansion of democracy. Simultaneously with an immense expansion of democracy ... democracy for the people, and not democracy for the money-bags, the dictatorship of the proletariat imposes a series of restrictions on the freedom of the oppressors, the exploiters, the capitalists. We must suppress them ... their resistance must be crushed by force ...(The State and Revolution)?

Furthermore -

5. Do they accept the traditional Communist strategy of hiding behind "popular fronts", using ostensibly non-Communist parties which are in fact subservient to the Communist party as part of a "coalition"? Is the Tripartite Alliance such a "popular front" - merely a cover for the planned dictatorship of "the vanguard of the proletariat" - the SACP?
6. Does the SACP secretly regard the "money-bags" in the ANC as members of the bourgeoisie that they intend to suppress on Judgment Day? Have they told the fat cats of the ANC nomenklatura of their intentions?
7. Does the SACP truly respect our constitution, or are they merely paying lip service to it as part of their revolutionary strategy? If the ANC/SACP loses the election, will "revolutionary theory" decree that the election outcome be disregarded and the "counter-revolutionaries" "crushed by force"?
8. Does the SACP intend to face the electorate in its own name, with its own party list and with its own policies in 2009, or do they intend to continue their strategy of skulking within the ostensibly democratic ANC?

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71639?oid=116289&sn=Detail
 

JungleBoy

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Lots of big words in there. You might need to de-intellectualise those questions so that the SACP can understand them better. (Or at all...)

I doubt that their gen. secretary (with a PHD in Philosophy) will have a problem understanding that
 

Ady

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I doubt that their gen. secretary (with a PHD in Philosophy) will have a problem understanding that

I beg to differ with you, i'm sure he will be rather discombobulated. Perhaps he holds an honorary Phd?
 

JungleBoy

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I beg to differ with you, i'm sure he will be rather discombobulated. Perhaps he holds an honorary Phd?[/QUOTE]

Nope,
  • Doctor of Philosophy degree, University of Natal, specialising in Sociology.
  • Also a council member of Unisa and UKZN,
  • Director of University of Natal(dbn) Education Policy Unit
  • Former lecturer in industrial psychology
The man is a scholar of note...
 

zagame

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LMFAO!!

THe sacp are stupid and follow the doctrines of a known racist in Carl Marx, talk about fusked up

The follow the ramblings of a racist Jew nogal :eek:

Marx wrote, "... it is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a ******. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also ******-like."

On one occasion when Marx's son-in-law Charles Longuet wrote a flattering article about Marx in a Paris newspaper, he inadvertently outraged his subject by referring to his Jewish origins. Marx flew into a rage and demanded that the unfortunate Longuet never mention his name again in his writings.

Marx's second daughter Laura married a Paul Lafargue in 1845. Marx had done everything possible to prevent the marriage, totally on account of Lafargue's small portion of Negro blood. But when Lafargue's wealthy parents promised a groom's dowry of 100,000 francs, Marx's attitude reversed. However, when the gift did not materialize, Marx reverted to racist slurs against his daughter's husband. Marx remarked that one of his daughters was doing her bit in solving the color question by marrying "a ******". He often referred to Lafargue as "the little Negro" or as "the Gorilla". When Laura bore a second child in 1870, Jenny Marx wrote Engels that she hoped her daughter would practice reproductive restraint and not produce "ten little ****** boys". When Lafargue decided to run in the municipal Paris elections, Engels too remarked that this was appropriate since the district contained the Paris Zoo, and "a ****** is a degree nearer to the animal kingdom than the rest of us"

http://www.faem.com/david/marx-3a.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50724
 

siphox

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Lots of big words in there. You might need to de-intellectualise those questions so that the SACP can understand them better. (Or at all...)

Do you ever say anything that anyone can chew on? All you do is throw these lousy comments.
 

Alan

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a fovourate saying for folks that did not get far in school...

lol yeah tell that to Mbeki. He's got a masters degree and yet managed to get undone by a guy with a standard 3. Eish

During the cold war universities were communist hot spots. All those 'enlightened' intellectuals supporting it and look what happened :eek:


LMFAO!!

THe sacp are stupid and follow the doctrines of a known racist in Carl Marx, talk about fusked up

The follow the ramblings of a racist Jew nogal :eek:

Yeah got to laugh. Govern Mbeki had a portrait of Karl Marx on the family mantelpiece according to Wiki. :D
 

sjjvdberg

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I originally sent the Eight questions for the SACP to the Mail & Guardian, but they did not seem to think them worth publishing (unless I missed something). I then got them posted on Politicsweb, from which they were copied here. Politicsweb tried to get a response from the SACP; I sent a copy to Comrade Blade's email address. Not a word from the SACP. Perhaps Comrade Blade does not respond to mere mortals. Perhaps the questions came too close to the bone. After all, scoundrels never tell. Perhaps the questions are too dated -- but so is the SACP, which seems to be stuck in the early twentieth century.

The next question that will arise is how many people on the ANC's election list are SACP members. My quess is about one third of the top 300 names. If so, voters need to know that one third of all votes for the ANC are actually votes for the SACP ... whose policies are ...what?

Sam van den Berg
Cape Town
 

Alan

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Probably a few too many closet reds at the Mail & Guardianto to get it published :eek:
 
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