Electricity Bill Help

ScottulusMaximus

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Now this may sound weird but I've never had to pay an electricity account before, it's either been included or prepaid, just got our first one now at the house we moved into beginning of the month and it's R1400 which seems excessive?

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Can someone please explain what all that means, the previous tenants owe the R1600 balance brought forward.
 
You get billed at R1.1169 for the first 600KWH (R670.14), above that you get billed at R1.7961 (1233KWH x R1.7961 = R2214) = Total R2884 excluding VAT which is equal to the Energy Domestic charge line.

Looks like they took an actual reading and also discounted you for 1033KWH which they may have overcharged previously
 
You get billed at R1.1169 for the first 600KWH (R670.14), above that you get billed at R1.7961 (1233KWH x R1.7961 = R2214) = Total R2884 excluding VAT which is equal to the Energy Domestic charge line.

Looks like they took an actual reading and also discounted you for 1033KWH which they may have overcharged previously

We only moved in on the 1st of October, with the last reading being in July how do I work out what we have used this month and what the previous people seem to have left over and not paid?
 
We only moved in on the 1st of October, with the last reading being in July how do I work out what we have used this month and what the previous people seem to have left over and not paid?

Hmm, normally when a house is sold, the agent or you normally take a pic of the reading once the previous occupants have left/transfer. This gives you your starting point, you then also log a call with Eskom or the municipality and indicate your have bought the property and they need to transfer the account to you as from the day of transfer.

If that was not done - i have no idea how you can determine what the reading was on 1st October.
 
Hmm, normally when a house is sold, the agent or you normally take a pic of the reading once the previous occupants have left/transfer. This gives you your starting point, you then also log a call with Eskom or the municipality and indicate your have bought the property and they need to transfer the account to you as from the day of transfer.

If that was not done - i have no idea how you can determine what the reading was on 1st October.

Ah, good to know for future... Will have to suck it up and pay then
 
I thought electricity is basic utility?

Why is it taxed
 
Seriously thats a lot

My household electricity is about R500 pm for about 5 people.

But here is what to do.
1. Replace all your lights with LED. (Now makro sells the OSRAM 10.5W bulbs (normal) for R39, and get cool white they are really bright.
2. Insulate your house (Isotherm 100mm-135mm).
3. Ignore cool tech paint (honestly its crap, painting your roof white leads to condensation in winter, and that gives you wet ceilings, so don't do that. But paint your house a light colour.
4. Insulate all your pipes to and from the geyser. Prevent heat loss. You can buy piping insulation with cable ties and do it. It's a once off thing.
5. Throw out heaters and run inverter aircons (It can heat or cool a room in 5 minutes, much quicker than any heater.)
6. Makro also sells radiant led spotlights (20w will make you look like a flood lit cricket ground. My neighbor isn't a fan because I installed 2. But generally your yard looks like it's daylight (but at night).
7. Switch to gas (cooking on gas is cleaner, and way cheaper.
8. If you like coffee or tea get a thermo kettle (Yip these keeps water warm upto 4 hours after you finished boiling it.
9. Insulate your geyser. Mine has insulation inside out. Generally I never switch the geyser off.
10. Put silver foil insulation at your beams. It helps keep your ceiling temperature cool as well.

Just changing lights etc will save you bucket loads. Especially if you have downlighters. My one friend has 42x50w downlighters in his house, which is pretty much all on, very often. 2100W. If he switched these to the equivalent led he would be using 4.5w x 42 = 189w.

The same with your electronics. Heavy gaming pcs don't need to run 24x7 if you're not at home, get something light that handles downloads ie an USDT or Mac Mini. Let everything run on Power-save mode also (SSD drives are great for this), on and off quick.

You can cut soo much power if you go from room to room.

And yes, I am running 3x aircons, and 5x pcs, and still getting such a low bill.
 
1. Pay attention to the colour of the light you buy, Cool white may look good but its not necessarily the right choice for every setting
5. Be wary of inverter aircons near the coast, the boards can die due to corrosion and they are PO3S expensive to replace (basically the cost of a whole new aircon), and the price difference between a standard aircon and an inverter doesn't necessarily justify the power saving.
7. Gas is actually not necessarily cheaper, you just shift the cost to a different energy type.


But R1400 for a electricity bill is not that high at all, its around 1000kwh for the month which is not great but not insane.
 
Now this may sound weird but I've never had to pay an electricity account before, it's either been included or prepaid, just got our first one now at the house we moved into beginning of the month and it's R1400 which seems excessive?

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Can someone please explain what all that means, the previous tenants owe the R1600 balance brought forward.

Hi
Did you buy or are you renting - also who is the provider - eskom direct or one of the municipalities?
 
My household electricity is about R500 pm for about 5 people.

But here is what to do.
1. Replace all your lights with LED. (Now makro sells the OSRAM 10.5W bulbs (normal) for R39, and get cool white they are really bright.
2. Insulate your house (Isotherm 100mm-135mm).
3. Ignore cool tech paint (honestly its crap, painting your roof white leads to condensation in winter, and that gives you wet ceilings, so don't do that. But paint your house a light colour.
4. Insulate all your pipes to and from the geyser. Prevent heat loss. You can buy piping insulation with cable ties and do it. It's a once off thing.
5. Throw out heaters and run inverter aircons (It can heat or cool a room in 5 minutes, much quicker than any heater.)
6. Makro also sells radiant led spotlights (20w will make you look like a flood lit cricket ground. My neighbor isn't a fan because I installed 2. But generally your yard looks like it's daylight (but at night).
7. Switch to gas (cooking on gas is cleaner, and way cheaper.
8. If you like coffee or tea get a thermo kettle (Yip these keeps water warm upto 4 hours after you finished boiling it.
9. Insulate your geyser. Mine has insulation inside out. Generally I never switch the geyser off.
10. Put silver foil insulation at your beams. It helps keep your ceiling temperature cool as well.

I have no idea how you manage R500 a month for 5 people with aircons...not even inverter ones.

Also a geyser is already internally insulated so does the insulation really actually help?

I run LED's through out and no heaters or anything in winter and don't get away for less than R1200. The only difference I can think of is I don't have a gas stove/oven but even that doesn't see daily use as I will often use the microwave and/or slow cooker instead.

Something tells me your meter has been "modified"...

How many hours a day do those Aircons get used?
 
1. Pay attention to the colour of the light you buy, Cool white may look good but its not necessarily the right choice for every setting
5. Be wary of inverter aircons near the coast, the boards can die due to corrosion and they are PO3S expensive to replace (basically the cost of a whole new aircon), and the price difference between a standard aircon and an inverter doesn't necessarily justify the power saving.
7. Gas is actually not necessarily cheaper, you just shift the cost to a different energy type.


But R1400 for a electricity bill is not that high at all, its around 1000kwh for the month which is not great but not insane.

More like 750kwh.
 
My household electricity is about R500 pm for about 5 people.

But here is what to do.
1. Replace all your lights with LED. (Now makro sells the OSRAM 10.5W bulbs (normal) for R39, and get cool white they are really bright.
2. Insulate your house (Isotherm 100mm-135mm).
3. Ignore cool tech paint (honestly its crap, painting your roof white leads to condensation in winter, and that gives you wet ceilings, so don't do that. But paint your house a light colour.
4. Insulate all your pipes to and from the geyser. Prevent heat loss. You can buy piping insulation with cable ties and do it. It's a once off thing.
5. Throw out heaters and run inverter aircons (It can heat or cool a room in 5 minutes, much quicker than any heater.)
6. Makro also sells radiant led spotlights (20w will make you look like a flood lit cricket ground. My neighbor isn't a fan because I installed 2. But generally your yard looks like it's daylight (but at night).
7. Switch to gas (cooking on gas is cleaner, and way cheaper.
8. If you like coffee or tea get a thermo kettle (Yip these keeps water warm upto 4 hours after you finished boiling it.
9. Insulate your geyser. Mine has insulation inside out. Generally I never switch the geyser off.
10. Put silver foil insulation at your beams. It helps keep your ceiling temperature cool as well.

Just changing lights etc will save you bucket loads. Especially if you have downlighters. My one friend has 42x50w downlighters in his house, which is pretty much all on, very often. 2100W. If he switched these to the equivalent led he would be using 4.5w x 42 = 189w.

The same with your electronics. Heavy gaming pcs don't need to run 24x7 if you're not at home, get something light that handles downloads ie an USDT or Mac Mini. Let everything run on Power-save mode also (SSD drives are great for this), on and off quick.

You can cut soo much power if you go from room to room.

And yes, I am running 3x aircons, and 5x pcs, and still getting such a low bill.

Bro, you are the efficiency king! I am double that in a 3 person household.

Maybe share some detail on who did your insulation (including geysers and pipes) - sorry for the tread hijack
 
@OP do you have a pool?
How many washing cycles do you run per week?
Do you have a separate freezer?
 
@OP do you have a pool?
How many washing cycles do you run per week?
Do you have a separate freezer?

No pool, wash twice a week.

If you are renting, i would believe the landlord needed to take note of the readings and sort all this out. Dont see how come he is just passing it on to you

I've asked nicely, will see what happens.
 
Renting, City of Tshwane

Eish - if its in the landlord's name he is liable for the old R1600 , if you want it transferred to your name he has to pay the R1600. But don't pay the R1600 yo will never see it again :(

As for the cost, chances are the estimating (not sure if it's on the bill but check for the EST) if the old tennant used a lot they keep using that as a base until they do an actual and then work on that.
 
Eish - if its in the landlord's name he is liable for the old R1600 , if you want it transferred to your name he has to pay the R1600. But don't pay the R1600 yo will never see it again :(

As for the cost, chances are the estimating (not sure if it's on the bill but check for the EST) if the old tennant used a lot they keep using that as a base until they do an actual and then work on that.

The R1600 will be passed to the previous tenants, it's the R1400 for October we're talking about. A reading was taken this month but was the first since July, but without the reading from the beginning of Oct there's no way to know how much we did actually use. Probably going to end up paying it, not the end of the world but still annoying.
 
Reading dates 24/10/17 - 18/07/17 (99 days)
It is not an estimate else there would be estimated on the bill. If the bill is in landlords name then he needs to sort it out.

ScottulusMaximus is being billed for previous tenants, hope that the bill is not in his name.

Why this meter was not read on August or September is anybody's guess, needs to be taken up with the person whose name is on the bill.
 
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